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Saturday, February 04 2012

Deal widow: 'Museum forced me out of my home'

Pensioner claims she was forced out by Deal museum

By Beth Robson
brobson@thekmgroup.co.uk

An elderly widow says she has had to leave her home because of stress brought on in a dispute with the trustees of Deal Maritime and Local History Museum .

Kathleen Thomson's family say the museum's trustees have erected a four metre fence around the 82-year-old's kitchen, blocking out the light from her windows.

Judith Dore, curator of the St George's Road museum, said the fence was built to protect the property and its artifacts on the advice of police.

Martin Catt, the pensioner's son-in-law, said: "She has lost two stone in weight since this all started and we've now paid to put her in a residential home for two weeks while we start a petition to send the Charities Commission.

"She's suffering and if we took her back there, like we have before, sheKathleen Thompson, claims she was forced out of her home's almost hysterical with the stress of it."

The dispute started in 2008 when issues about access and land rental flared up after Mrs Thomson objected to a protective covering that the museum began building over one of the boat artefacts in the yard.

According to Mrs Dore, the neighbour had rented a portion of the museum's land for a peppercorn rent of £4 per year.

This was an agreement between previous owners of her house and the museum.

But the trustees were alerted that it would not be allowed by the Charities Commission and that the agreement should never have been made in the first place.

After consulting solicitors, the land was reclaimed in January 2010.

"We were advised by police to erect a fence to prevent us being able to look into her windows," Mrs Dore said.

Mrs Thomsett used the land as a garden, tending to many potted plants.

Mr Catt added: "Her garden was her life.

"We found something on the internet that states she's got a right to light because she's been there for more than 20 years."

He believes the Land Registry documents state she has still got a right to access but Mrs Dore said the family has taken this out of context.

"We've already spent more than £2,000 to try and get her right of access back," he said.

Deryck Murray, chairman of the trustees, said: "It's a storm in a tea cup.

Pensioner Kathleen Thompson's home

"We had a six month notice period to honour and we issued her with a notice of our intention to reclaim the land on July 15 2009 and we put that into effect in the end of January.

"All documents relating the land at the Deal Maritime and Local History Museum are available for inspection," he said.

A Facebook group, called Shame on You Deal Maritime Museum, was launched on Thursday.

By 10am on Friday, membership had rocketed from 29 to 222 and it continues to rise.

Nathan Sewell, a former pupil of Mrs Thomson, is one of the group's administrators.

He said: "I'm delighted that people from outside the area have joined the group to back Mrs Thomson.

"There's a few of us who want to support these people who try but cannot support themselves."

 

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  • S.G. wrote:

    Sorry, Gordon, but you will find the Dores are far more artful than you think. I believe you will find that all the artefacts are now tied up with the building in St. George`s Rd and cannot now be moved! S.G.

    26 Jan 2011 10:01 PM

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  • Gordon Love wrote:

    This lamentable dispute will not be solved until new premises are found for the museum.
    Can I suggest that the Mercury run a campaign to find suitable premises in the area?
    The back garden of a terraced house is not suitable for the display of artifacts and the restoration work that the museum need to do.
    Perhaps keep the inside displays in St.George's Road and move the outside stuff somewhere else?
    The back garden could then be returned to garden with the odd display and the fence could be removed and Mrs Thompson returned home?
    Something must be done to end this, and Deal deserves it's museum and Mrs Thompson deserves to have her home back.
    Regards
    Gordon Love

    11 Jan 2011 5:38 PM

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  • Marg Halford wrote:

    What is the latest on this situation? I read about it and signed the signature protest whilst on holiday in Deal.
    Could someone post an update?
    I'm interested in the progress.
    Thanking you.
    MH

    04 Sep 2010 9:40 PM

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  • Ken Jennings wrote:

    Judith Dore is a disgrace to Deal. She should resign immediately and spend the rest of her life hoping that someone does not do something equally ridiculous to her.
    Deryck Murray's idea of a 'storm in a teacup' is to bully an elderly lady and deprive her of her home. What nice people you have in Deal.

    07 Jul 2010 7:51 PM

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  • Karl Dunn wrote:

    to John Lines, I am in total agreement. The notice was stupid. The fence is stupid, the trustees were stupid to think that it wouldn't bother anyone... The last I heard that petition was 4,000, and how many trustees took the decision to put it up? And they still think they are the clever ones. I beg to differ!

    04 Jul 2010 2:03 AM

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  • John Lines wrote:

    I am incensed by the notice put in the window of the Museum. If anyone is bullying it is the Museum. Years ago there used to be Ancient lights which protected people. Surely their own intelligence must tell them that they cannot erect a fence right outside someone's window, or have they got any after that stupid notice.

    01 Jul 2010 3:51 PM

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  • George Sharman wrote:

    You really do act like a small town newspaper. You did not actually publish the letter I sent you. I sent a note to Beth
    Robson about the balanced original story she wrote on the Kent Messenger.By the time it reached the pages of your illustrious journal it had Changed somewhat. That was in my covering note that came with my REAL letter, which you chose to totally ignore.
    We,the family of Kath Thompson have told Julie Rook who is acting as mediator that as soon as the fence is removed we will be happy to start amicable dialogue.
    As for yourself, Mr Smith I suggest you visit Mrs Thompson's house to see the affect of the fence on TWO kitchen WINDOWS not one as you said in your latest report.

    01 Jul 2010 8:48 AM

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  • Dawn Peers (aka Bellabrown) wrote:

    Person of Deal at least have the courage of your convictions and sign your name. Conjecture of course but could it be that you are the one and same steward I overheard laughing in the market square saying you r
    had been asked to sign the petion and you had replied you would love it if it was your mother/in-law? I used to be proud to say I am from Deal, not anymore.

    29 Jun 2010 8:15 PM

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  • Shirley Miller wrote:

    Dear "HEARTLESS" Person of Deal ,just WHAT do you think a 82 yr old lady is going to do to these artefacts.Sail away in one of the boats, fire the odd cannon ? At worse she may have adorned them with flowers!Get real.
    This is terrible treatment of an elderly person.If I treated my elders in such a way I would hang my head in shame.

    29 Jun 2010 6:36 PM

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  • Chrissi Clifton wrote:

    Hello Person of Deal, Perhaps you could explain then what the purpose of the fence is around Kathleen's windows? If it served a purpose, they might be able to justify it. There is no added security to their premises, so what is the reason?The trustees have publicly lied saying quote ' the fence was erected after consultation with Dover District Council and the police', yet the police, and the Community Safety Unit (run jointly by Police and DDC) who have categorically denied giving any advice to the Museum on the erection of a fence. Paul Watkins (Leader of Dover District Council)through his officers have also denied giving any such advice as have Deal Police.

    Volunteers volunteer because they want to. We have many hundreds of volunteers in Deal, we do it because of our sense of community spirit. I myself have been a volunteer in Deal for the past 10 years.

    The trustees have also been acting maliciously and despite over 3,000 people signing the petition, they try to discredit the goodwill shown by Deal Residents who have supported the campaign. Shame on them!

    29 Jun 2010 5:57 PM

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  • George Sharman wrote:

    Sorry, Person of Deal, you have made me very cross!
    Who paid out the vast expense to have the fence erected in the first place? Surely the Museum and it should be in Museum accounts.
    Why is said museum employing expensive solicitors DAVID TANG from Soho.
    No doubt all these fees to date are listed clearly on the Museum accounts.
    Why has the Museum presented NO financial accounts to the Charities Commission in the last several years?
    Their money is certainly not be spent on the maintenance of their fine historic outbuilding which in a photograph of 1980 looked beautifully restored. Look at them 30 years later and no one would believe the ramshackle building with rotting windows is the property of a local history museum.

    29 Jun 2010 12:35 PM

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  • George Sharman wrote:

    What absolute rubbish from the un-named person of Deal. Why are you hiding in anonimity.
    Mrs Thompson has hardly got the space to take a boat through her house, let alone the strength to carry it!
    Her kichen was built c1960 and the house has had several owners since then. The Museum wasn't founded until 1972. As a result of this Mrs Thompson has a legal RIGHT TO LIGHT going back to the Act of 1832 and carried on in subsequent acts.
    She also has a right in law to maintain her kitchen walls and clean her kitchen windows and this does not involve actual Trespass but is an easement under the title deeds of the 2 properties.
    Her outside water tap, once used by museum staff as well as Mrs Thompson as is the drain and water manhole cover which is the property of Southern Water.
    The Museum is certainly NOT acting legally and if you would have the good grace to reveal your ACTUAL identity to the good people of Deal, I would happily take you into Kath's kitchen and show you what these INHUMAN trustees, who are now unfortunately a TOTAL DISGRACE to the town od Deal, have done.

    29 Jun 2010 12:17 PM

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  • Person of Deal wrote:

    It seems to me that this little town museum which depends on its charitable status to continue to provide its service - run by dedicated volunteers, not a corporate organisation - is doing what it has to do. Many of the artefacts are donations or loans to the museum and are stored outdoors e.g. boats; it has a responsibility to safeguard them - this is recognised by the Charities Commission. The rather large extension to this lady's house goes very close to her boundary - perhaps it was unwise to build something dependent on light so close to her boundary? It is regrettable that she is so upset, but it appears the museum is acting legally.

    27 Jun 2010 9:06 PM

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  • Julia Meager wrote:

    Once again it just shows the anger and support that Kathleen is getting by the comments here, plus comments on other places. For those of you who would like to sign the online petition, this can be found on the Deal town toolbar. The person or persons responsible3 for this attrocity should be brought out into the light (maybe with a fence around them ) and put to shame. Kathleen should get a full apology, her home put back as she had worked hard on, and she should be compensated for the distress and hurt she has been caused. Who the heck do these people think they are that they feel they have the authority to abuse an elderly person, who herself has put so much into the community, and then try to pass the buck and say "it's a storm in a teacup". Well the people of Deal have news for you..........think on.

    23 Jun 2010 9:54 AM

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  • FW Blatchford wrote:

    The pictures speak for themselves - how despicable that in this day and age a corporate body can feel itself justified in treating it's neighbour in such an awful way.

    I don't know what's worse - the way in which the trustees have treated Mrs Thomson or the way in which they have then tried to shift the blame by claiming that the Police advised them to put the fence up. It may well have been that the Police may have suggested some crime prevention measures which may well have included strengthening their boundary however I feel sure that the advice did not include constructing such a fence in such a manner so as to virtually imprison their neighbour.
    I appreciate that there are always two sides to every story and would like to see one of the trustees comment here in order to put their side of things although I cannot see that there is anything that they can say that would justify such appalling behaviour.

    22 Jun 2010 6:52 PM

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  • JANELLE BELINDA YEATES wrote:

    I am not from the area but was sufficiently shocked by a friends comment on facebook to respond urgently but intend to research it further!!!
    what is this Country coming to???
    Once upon a time we respected our Elders!
    The fencing around that woman's home was diabolical.
    someone obviously wanted that lady out of her home VERY badly!!!
    I don't read that rag The Sun normally but on this occasion,RESPECT to you!!!

    22 Jun 2010 4:18 PM

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  • Philip Rees wrote:

    You can sign the online petition at

    www.dealtowntoolbar.com/shameonyoupetition

    22 Jun 2010 3:48 PM

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  • jj taylor wrote:

    please join me in ringing social services ,and report deal maritime museum and it fascist trustees ,for elderly abuse,Psychological Abuse and intimidation,
    i think they deserve more than a public humiliation for there ill treatment of kathleen .

    22 Jun 2010 1:31 PM

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  • Heather Walters wrote:

    Well, we've seen it all now! it's not enough that our elderly people are abused by youths, NOW Museums ran by charitable trusts are at it! this is paramount to abuse, to take away sunlight, and the beautiful view Mrs Thomson had from her kitchen window.. how heartbreaking for poor Kathleen to see it destroyed... our elderly people should be cherished and cared for... I am discusted...DEAL MARITIME MUSEUM! you have gone too far.

    22 Jun 2010 12:40 PM

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  • tracey morris wrote:

    It is shocking in this day and age how the elderly of our community are being treated by those who seem simply not to care. Derryk Murray should hold his head in shame at saying that this matter is a 'storm in a teacup' - it is more than that - particularly to Mrs Thompson, a former volunteer of the Museum, and for the community of Deal - who now face the prospect of their community Museum being brought into disrepute, aswell as the charity itself. After looking on the Charity Commission website (The Deal Maritime and Local History Museum ref: 288090) I was totally shocked to find that over the years the accounts have not been sumbmitted - it is certainly a deep concern considering two of the trustees listed on the commission site are indeed elected councillors (see: http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/SHOWCHARITY/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithoutPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=288090&SubsidiaryNumber=0). I certainly hope as a community we can treated our elderly and vulnerable better than this. And therefore, elect people who actually care about our elderly.

    22 Jun 2010 12:19 PM

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  • George Sharman wrote:

    So Derryk Murray thinks its all a storm in a teacup.With the amount of light in Kath Thompsom's kitchen at the moment, she would not be able to see enough to make a cup of tea.How would the all glorious Dores and know it all Murray like someone coming along and builing a fence 2 inches away from their kitchen windows?
    Kath Thompson has a Right to Light in Law.How can the trustees of Deal Maritime Museum spend all this money on a fence when they cannot bother to restore ships in their own back yard, let alone all the nautical rubbish that is piled up there. Oh Yes! Deal Maritime Museum is also several years late in their financial returns to the Charity Commisioners.With their sort of behaviour,they should not be allowed to act as Trustees ever again.

    22 Jun 2010 11:55 AM

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  • Nathan Sewell wrote:

    They can come out with all the excuses they like. The fact of the matter is: they have built a fence which has blocked out the light to Mrs Thomson's kitchen and forced her to remove her beautiful garden. Simple! Facts are facts! And I am very disappointed in our former majoy - Dereck Murray - defending such disgraceful and seemingly vindictive actions.

    22 Jun 2010 11:42 AM

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  • j j taylor wrote:

    i think this is disgraceful way to treat an oap and a lady who is held in such high esteem by the community in which she lived quite happily with her little garden.until you mr murray and maritime museum took that away from her,i believe your storm in a tea cup jib is uncouth,and your treatment of this lady is swaying toward being Nazism , funnily the Berlin wall was pulled down ,i hope the same happens to your fence. as to the police told you to erect the fence ,im sure they didnt mean you block out this ladies windows ,and take away her garden ,im sure if you searched your conscience youd see what youve done is a crime to her humanity and very soul destroying and detrimental to her health and wellbeing .

    22 Jun 2010 11:41 AM

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  • Shirley Miller wrote:

    How could anyone be treated like this?If we treated an animal this way the whole country would be up in arms!
    The trustees should hang their heads in shame.I FOR ONE WILL NEVER VISIT THIS MUSEUM !

    22 Jun 2010 11:04 AM

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  • Chrissi Clifton wrote:

    I cannot believe the flippant attitude of Deryk Murray regarding the treatment of Mrs Kathleen Thomson who has had her home boarded up by Deal Maritime Museum. He describes the outrage of the public as a 'Storm in a Tea -Cup. As the creator of the face-book group 'Shame On You Deal Maritime Museum' , which currently has 838 members, and a paper petition of 1,200 as well as an online petition still growing I have news for you Mr Murray, this storm will not pass until Kath is home, able to open her windows and look out of them and gain access to her home safely.

    22 Jun 2010 11:01 AM

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