Studdal fox hunt organisers apologise

Joe Hashman wrote:

Please show your support for the ban on foxhunting. Search for the HOUNDS OFF website and learn more.

30 Oct 2011 7:02 PM

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nic wrote:

How many chickens are treated barbarically by humans in battery farms? the amount taken by foxes, or any other farm animal in comparison to the total slaughtered for my non veggies is miniscule. Stop using this argument as a reason to justify-it's a load of b*****ks!! Illegal immigrants are pillaging our country.....they don't belong here.......foxes are part of our countryside of which should be protected. Male or female degenerates for the hunt should find another hobby that doesnt have to involve taking life. Sick bast***s.

29 Oct 2011 4:34 PM

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Heather wrote:

I love the comments from Donna and POWAperson, well done ! If ANYONE went into a public road or village with 40 uncontrolled dogs they would be prosecuted - it is the legal responsibility of ALL dog owners to have their dog(s) under control at all times - 'class' (or money which seems to be the modern definition of class) has NOTHING to do with it.

29 Oct 2011 12:41 PM

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Donna Penn wrote:

@Nebhunting: Little Penny on her pony is likely enjoying riding her pony rather than hunting. Pony riding can easy be done without the ride ending in the unnecessary death of another animal. If Penny is enjoying watching the death of the fox itself, well that is the definition of sadistic; derivation of pleasure as a result of inflicting pain or watching pain inflicted on other living things.

How about instead of crying class-discrimination at anyone that dares to question this blood-'sport', those pro-hunt actually try and put forward a decent and factual defense of their beloved hunt. I can't think of any that haven't already been debunked a hundred times already, but it would certainly be better than reading the usual fallacy-filled bemoaning.

Personally, I couldn't care less if it's a wealthy upper-class estate-owner on horseback with hounds or a lower-class chav from a council estate with a baseball bat - animal cruelty is animal cruelty, no matter the social status of those that inflict it. I welcome justice for any that inflict suffering on animals for sport.

27 Oct 2011 9:37 PM

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Donna Penn wrote:

That's funny Will, because I see no science and all emotion in your comment. It was a bit rambling too if I'm honest, but I'm not going to resort to ad hominem fallacies because of it.

27 Oct 2011 9:21 PM

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Twotonethomas wrote:

Which class struggle would that be Will, the one you've just invented to defend a barbaric sport?

27 Oct 2011 5:00 PM

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Will wrote:

Police carrying out forensic tests! What is that going to prove?

Usual high quality comments from the anti lobby, all emotion and no science.

You ought to start monitoring drivers on mobile phones, or speeding? But that wouldn't be part of the class struggle would it?

27 Oct 2011 3:48 PM

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Twotonethomas wrote:

If the idiot can't control the dogs, as he admits, then he shouldn't be out in public with them off a lead.

27 Oct 2011 1:27 PM

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Nigel wrote:

It's a foolish argument that hunting is good because foxes are bad.

What's a covert? A place that hunts maintain for foxes to live in.

27 Oct 2011 11:50 AM

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POWAPerson wrote:

What is almost more disgusting about apologists for hunting than their gaining a perverse thrill from chasing, tormenting and killing defenceless animals is that they so consistently refuse to accept their own culpability when called or found out, try to blame others for their own wrongdoing and invent ever more ridiculous excuses for their vile behaviour. The 'cynical subterfuge' which a Judge referred to in the Fernie Hunt servants attempts to wriggle out of 'bang to rights' convictions earlier this month is universal among the hunting community. In fact we could rewrite the old joke. Q. How do you know when a hunter engages in cynical subterfuge? A. Their lips move.
Even now, the West Street Tickham tries to evade responsibilty for the small atrocity they inflicted on Studdal by their selfish and reckless, if not illegal, behaviour. If they were really 'drag' hunting, how did they end up in the middle of a village? Why were their hounds chasing a fox? This sort of accident never happens with real drag hunts that follow artificial scents. They should do the residents and wildlife of East Kent a favour and not just stay away from Studall but keep their pack of trained killer dogs at home until, at least, they have decided to convert to real drag hunting and retrained their pack properly.
'Nebhunting' repeating the CA lie about what happened when the Cotswold Vale FH pack charged on to the A38 recently is yet another example of the arrogant egotism of hunters who think they are above the law and will not accept responsibilty. They were lucky the sabs in their vehicle arrived on the scene in time to save the rest of their hounds and prevent what could have been a major accident. But as anti-hunt monitors and activists know full well, they don't actually care about their hounds - who are merely disposable tools of their evil trade - or about endangering and inconveniencing the public. Anyway, if the Cotwswold Vale were 'trail hunting', how on earth did they end up anywhere near, let alone on, on a busy main road?
The Prime Minister made much of talk of the problems caused by urban gangs recently, but strangely he is supportive of their rural equivalents, the semi-lawless mobs who roam our countryside terrorising wildlife and causing havoc to rural residents. We clearly need to make the Hunting Act much stronger to deter, catch and punish these serial wrong-doers, not repeal it to reward their ruthlessness.

27 Oct 2011 11:32 AM

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Nebhunting wrote:

It's a shame that the anti response is just one of insults and name calling, nothing really constructive on their side was said, so little Penny aged 13 out on her pony with the hunt is sadistic, no I think not, the reason that most prosecutions fail is that there is not the evidence to convict, there is great pressure from LACS to prosecute anyone who goes out with a pack of hounds, I sometimes wonder if it is really more of a class thing than anything else, just recently in Gloucestershire hunt monitors/sabs blew a hunting horn to get the hounds away from the huntsman and one hound was killed on the road because of this stupid behaviour, this law was introduced by the Labour government as a vote winner and to have a go at the Conservative party, it did not work, it had to be forced in by use of the Parliment act which I think was a great misuse of this act and it has brought caos to the countryside, it was ill thought out and requires repealing.

27 Oct 2011 10:43 AM

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