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Thursday, May 24 2012

Councillors vote in favour of allowances hike

County councillors have voted through an eight per cent increase in their allowances despite opposition calls for the payments to be frozen.

County council leader Paul Carter dismissed a call from the opposition parties for the new allowances - which were recommended by an independent panel - be rejected and that the decision should be delayed until the public could be given a chance to have a say.

He said the increase proposed by was "modest, sensible and fair" and pointed out that councillors had seen no increase over the previous four years.

Cllr Paul Carter, Kent County Council leader"It is below any inflationary index that you want to use so really we are worse off than we were four years ago," he said.

He rejected a Lib Dem call for the decision to be put on hold to allow the public a say."That would be a total waste of time and effort."

But the increases were condemned by the opposition parties. Labour group leader Cllr Les Christie said the public would be outraged.

"We are the best paid councillors in the south east of England. Are we so insensitive, having knocked on people's doors during the election, not to recognise peoples' attitudes to politicians? I do not find it acceptable that the first decision that we take as a new council is to give ourselves an increase of eight per cent," he said.

Watch a Kent Today video news report on the issue.

He said the public would find the move outrageous and added that staff who received a one per cent pay increase this year would find it "odd".

Cllr Trudy DeanLiberal Democrat opposition leader Trudy Dean said KCC should be prepared to allow the public a say before any increase was voted through.

"If the last few weeks have taught us anything, it is that members of the public need some involvement in setting our allowances. It has become perfectly clear since the exposure of MPs allowances that there has to be greater exposure and quite rightly so."

The rise in basic allowance means Kent county councillors will be among some of the country’s best-paid local politicians.

In East Sussex, councillors receive a basic allowance of £10,842 while the leader is entitled to £24,087. In Essex, the leader Lord Hanningfield received £39,181 and the basic allowance is £10,550 while in Birmingham, the largest authority in the country, the basic allowance is £15,850.

  • So what do you think? Are councillors worth the allowances we pay? Should they be given more? Join in our debate by clicking on the 'make a comment' tab below.

Why are councillors' allowances paid?

Allowances paid to councillors are supposed to reflect the time they give to their council duties, such as attending council meetings and meeting constituents.

However, it is not a salary as all councillors are provided with allowances that reflect that there is a voluntary element to their work.

They are also intended to cover incidental costs, such as when councillors use their home to deal with council business.

In addition to allowances, members are entitled to claim travel expenses; a carers’ allowance and for some subsistence costs.

Wednesday, June 24 2009

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  • harvey wrote:

    councillors expenses

    outrageous, what a bunch of hypocrites

    28 Jun 2009 11:34 AM

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  • Ratchetup wrote:

    Protest

    We wouldn't have to put up with this sort of thing if more people got off their backsides and voted. Our only option now is to attend council meetings and let our feelings be known, something us Brits don't do often enough. We must change this now!!!

    27 Jun 2009 4:42 PM

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  • mike wrote:

    councillors' expenses

    This is exactly what the people of Kent voted for - or rather chose not to vote for by staying home and therefore allowing the Conservatives to increase not just their allowances but also their majority. It's a sign of things to come. The staff get 1%, Tory councillors give themselves 10%

    26 Jun 2009 5:14 PM

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  • Dave Usher wrote:

    councillors allowance hike

    So the leader of KCC believes the increase to be "sensible and fair" does he? Does he know the meaning of the words or do they have a differant meaning when referring to people in office."SENSIBLE" would have been waiting to discuss this when all our millions locked in the Icelandic bank was returned to us."FAIR" would be treating all KCC workers the same.Democracy? You are having a laugh!!!!!!!!!!!

    26 Jun 2009 3:34 PM

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  • lel wrote:

    allowances

    Appauling!

    26 Jun 2009 12:14 AM

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  • Bootneck wrote:

    How Dare they

    Well, Well, The ones who are responsible for investing 52 million (16 million LGPF) into the Icelantic bank debarcle seem to have caught the bankers syndrome and patting themselves on the back with a nice pay rise. Now we are safe for the next four years. I wonder what expences they have claimed, now doubt went to Brussles 1st class no doubt, wonder if any one had their moat cleared or ordered any manure.

    25 Jun 2009 5:41 PM

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  • A Perkins wrote:

    Cynical First Decision After Election

    Surely this canot be true. Did the conservatives stand in the election earlier this month on a "vote for us and we will give ourselves a huge pay-rise" ticket? I, like every resident of Kent have been cheated by these opportunists! To force their staff to accept 1% and then grant themselves 8% shows the contempt the conservatives have for council staff. I omly hope the Telegraph exposes THIS scandal as they have the scandal over MPs allowances.

    25 Jun 2009 4:51 PM

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  • Steve wrote:

    Greedy Councillors vote in favour

    As you have shown such contempt for the staff that make you look good Mr Carter, expect no more favours in return.
    No more will we (KCC employees) manipulate the figures given to the Audit Commision in order for you to get your 4 star rating.

    25 Jun 2009 1:48 PM

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  • Dave. Tonbridge wrote:

    One rule for Councilors another for the rest of us

    Maybe KM can find out from Paul Carter if this 8% rise was put in the KCC budget when it was prepared earlier this year. And if not what services will suffer?

    25 Jun 2009 1:39 PM

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  • LESLIE TURNER wrote:

    KCC COUNCILLORS' PAY

    Councillors are now professional politicians and that must be recognised ; they are elected by only 40% or so of the vote - their main task in the next year will be to tempt some of the 60% stay-at-homes to vote - they will need to adopt social policies which will satisfy the weaker members of our society ; policies for housing, a Living wage, improvement in working conditions for women, reduction of unemployment, engagement of youth, to name but a few. If they successfully do that they will earn their wages.

    25 Jun 2009 12:36 PM

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  • tony flaig wrote:

    It takes a lot to shame a Kent Tory

    Kent Conservatives seem to be totally detached, from the realities of Kent's residents, how often have we heard Paul Carter, gush forth, to defend fat cat salaries, waste millions of Tax payers money on KentTV, PR etc.

    One wonders why paying top dollar for senior officers they still managed to lose millions in Icelandic banks.

    I would be shocked if Kent's Tories don't dig deeper into our pockets.

    24 Jun 2009 8:20 PM

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  • Dave. Tonbridge wrote:

    snouts in trough

    It was only 20 days ago when 1 in 5 of the KCC electors voted the tories back. The 3 in 5 that did not vote because of the national issues can have no complaints if this gets passed. But I am sure that cllr Carter will order all his members to vote against any increase. Note that many other county councils only pay a basic £9,000 p.a.

    24 Jun 2009 7:36 PM

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  • John wrote:

    Councillors' Expenses

    At a time when inflation is substantially less than 8% and millions are out of work and suffering financial hardship, it seems totally wrong that KCC Councillors should vote themelves such an increase especially when they have just refused to divulge the details of the very substantial bonuses that they have paid to Council officers who are already the best paid in the country. The whole issue is very distasteful to the thousands of Council Tax payers who expect their elected representatives to do their best for Kent without any suggestion of less than fair dealing.

    24 Jun 2009 7:04 PM

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  • nb wrote:

    scandalous

    what expenses scandals are going on in central government in now gets you thinking closer to home.

    when council services are being told to cut costs wherever possible to keep services afloat they should be setting an example as a top down approach.

    a reduction should be on the cards

    24 Jun 2009 3:59 PM

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  • David wrote:

    allowances

    I was hoping there would be a cut in there allowances as they dont get much done around here in Parkwood I say Cut them by at least 50% just a load of greedy gits like them in London ie MPs

    24 Jun 2009 3:46 PM

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  • Rosakema wrote:

    Councillors to get a hike in allowances

    wonderful - good luck to them - lets hope the vote goes against an 8% increase - kcc employees only got a miserly 1%!!!!

    24 Jun 2009 3:15 PM

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  • Steve wrote:

    Greedy Councillors

    So, in awarding KCC employees a 1% pay rise County Councillors stated that it was necessary to show some restraint during such difficult economic times.
    However, although those difficult times aren't yet over, it's okay for these same Councillors to award themselves an 8% hike in allowances.
    Their own personal greed beggars belief.

    24 Jun 2009 3:09 PM

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