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Thursday, May 24 2012

Pro fox-hunting campaigners fear their cause will be set back

The scene in Elham as the East Foxhounds Hunt arrives in the High Street on Boxing Day.

by Ruth Banks

Pro fox-hunting campaigners in East Kent fear the new Tory/Lib Dem coalition could set back their campaign.

The Conservatives had offered a free vote on a repeal of the Hunting Act which banned the sport in their manifesto.

But, after the party went into coalition with the Lib Dems this week, it hasn't been made clear yet if a vote will go ahead.

Hear our full report by KentOnline reporter Ruth Banks

Nick Onslow, of the East Kent Hunt, told KentOnline pro hunting campaigners were happy to wait, as the government has bigger issues to tackle at the moment.

What do you think about fox-hunting? Give us your views in the comment box below.

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  • Lyn wrote:

    IF anybody truly believed foxes should be killed, why do they have to do it with a pack of dogs tearing it to shreds? Why do the huntsmen wear uniforms? They are truly sick in the head.

    20 May 2010 4:02 PM

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  • tom mackenzie wrote:

    Will the Liberals sell their souls by sitting on their hand during a free vote to repeal the fox hunting bill? For more comment see; http://torypartyflushed.blogspot.com

    17 May 2010 10:15 PM

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  • Ralph wrote:

    I agree strongly with all the comments about fox-hunting being an uncivilised, barbaric and disgusting pursuit. I live in a rural part of Kent and know a few natural Conservative voters who refused to vote Conservative (they stayed at home) because of the party's position on fox hunting. It is worth noting that a large majority of Conservative voters oppose fox-hunting. Visit www.conservativesagainstfoxhunting.com to send a message to David Cameron urging him not to attempt to repeal the ban.

    16 May 2010 1:05 PM

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  • Ian wrote:

    So when a fox gets old and toothless, or mangey or injured by a car, or wounded by a poor shot, or blasted by a shotgun, which won't kill unless within 15 yards at least, it will die, eventually, but it will be a long indignified and suffering death. Foxes don't have "old foxes homes", or hopsitals. Do the other posters here go out and help these foxes? No, but all of this is fine because no one sees it.
    We have eradicated all of the wild natural predetators of the fox, the dog or hound, is the only one left other than humans.
    Given a choice as a fox i'd prefer to end my days swiftly, not through long drawn out suffering.
    Remember the words of Skinner and Kaufmann, the ban was never about foxes.

    16 May 2010 10:31 AM

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  • Alan wrote:

    We are in the middle of a depression people losing jobs etc and yet a sick minority can only think of one thing the bringing back of chasing and killing wild animals.
    Although the hunting bill has saved lives and driven hare coursing underground, most hunts are carrying on as before and openly flouting the ban. Police forces up and down the country do nothing to uphold something that most of the country agree with. The ban needs strengthening and the sentences increased.

    15 May 2010 6:36 PM

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  • Saly wrote:

    Totally agree with all of the anti hunting comments - the only thing that really bothers me about this whole political mess is that it might give the conservatives and thier rich perverted freinds the chance to resurrect this gruesome barbaric sport which should be consigned to history. If the Lib Dems are weak enough go along with the conservatives on this issue I will never even consider supporting them in future. The last government worked hard on this and got the right result - it would be tragic if all that was for nothing.

    15 May 2010 11:02 AM

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  • tom wrote:

    It's pretty clear where the sentiments of the readers are, overwhelmingly against fox hunting, and this is reflected in the country, rural as well as urban. The Tories will try to repeal this bill. They will try to do it under the cover of their 'great repeal'. They are already looking at it and have asked their civil servants to look at the options. it needs to be made crystal clear to them that any such repeal will be divisive and will have millions on the street in protest. They will lose their coalition, and they will lose parliament. (which wouldn't be a bad thing of course)

    14 May 2010 5:07 PM

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  • Steve wrote:

    I live in the country ( surrey) and we have some very beautiful wildlife foxes being one them, so what i do is take my 12 gauge and blow them into a thousands pieces! dirty rotten creatures who will happily bit the heads off 20 hens in a shed and not eat or take one of them. There is no other creature quiet like a fox in this respect, so it gets no respect.

    14 May 2010 4:07 PM

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  • Geoffrey Woollard wrote:

    Fox hunting, hare coursing, stag hunting, etc. represent pure and undiluted perversion. Those who practise them are perverted. Those who support them are perverts. What will these perverts propose next? To bring back bear baiting and cockfighting? The ConDemNation is an unnatural marriage of inconvenience, but if Clegg goes with Cameron on these perverted so-called 'sports,' God help them both.

    14 May 2010 3:59 PM

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  • Angie wrote:

    PS... The comment below is correct. This is not town vs country or Tories vs Labour. This is a national issue, rich poor, rural and urban.

    If you are a Conservative supporter and you want to keep the ban, please add your support to these great people!

    http://www.conservativesagainstfoxhunting.com/

    and here on Facebook.

    http://www.facebook.com/SaveMe2010?ref=ts#!/pages/Conservatives-Against-Fox-Hunting/239237090980

    They have lots of information on their facebook page to clue anyone who is unsure what they stand for.

    Many thanks

    14 May 2010 1:28 PM

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  • Angie wrote:

    This repeal intention was kept deliberately quiet prior to the elections. Cameron has promised the wealthy and powerful Countryside Alliance that he will get the ban repealed. 75% of this nation backs the ban on hunting with hounds. This is the reality of this nasty and insane passtime..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtMu82kTw4o

    Please.. join us in making the nation fully aware of the brutality and inhumanity of this. www.save-me.org.uk or on facebook.. search Save Me.

    Thank you

    14 May 2010 1:08 PM

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  • mark wrote:

    This sick pastime should be consigned to the history books and I also think that blooding [where adults and children on their first hunt have the foxes blood wiped on their faces] is digusting. What sort of man have we now got running our country.

    14 May 2010 1:02 PM

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  • Stu wrote:

    The majority of people living and brought up in the Countryside do not support hunting, myself included. It's not a Town vs Country argument, as so many in the pro-lobby would have people think. I for one sincerely hope there is no repeal of the act!

    14 May 2010 12:49 PM

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  • Louise wrote:


    Killing animals for fun should never be allowed again. There is no place for it in a civilised society.

    14 May 2010 11:10 AM

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  • Zinfandel Organic wrote:

    Many thousands of people did not vote Conservative because they pledged to scrap the Hunting Act in their manifesto and also many thousands voted tactically for the Liberal Democrats purely to keep the Tories out for many reasons.

    As an ex Tory voter I can now see that they, and in particular David Cameron, either take pleasure in persecuting animals for their own pleasure or they support these appalling pastimes which to my mind is equally as bad.

    Nick Clegg will have to be very strong on this issue because hunters have friends in high places who own most of the land and wealth in this country, which sadly for our wonderful British wildlife, means the power to be cruel with impunity.

    I wonder if Nick Clegg knows just what a nest of vipers he has committed his party to joining!

    14 May 2010 10:58 AM

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  • Annmarie wrote:

    I live in the country and am glad to say have some beautiful foxes on my land . The farmers in this area have no trouble with them and stand firm when it comes to hunting ...We will never let anyone on to our land to kill any wild life ban or no ban ..

    14 May 2010 10:17 AM

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  • Dawn T wrote:

    Well lets hope that is there is one good thing to come from Nick jumping into bed with Dave it's that they manage to curb the Tory thirst for innocent blood. The Ban Must Stand

    14 May 2010 10:12 AM

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  • Helen C wrote:

    I agree lets hope they tighten up the loopholes and get rid of these bloodsports forever. Sick sick sick is the only way to discribe people that cant be content with drag hunting, and need to see the blood of a tortured animal to have had a good day. I say we put these evil people to good use and get them cleaning the streets and public toilets. They have way to much spare time.

    14 May 2010 9:47 AM

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  • Dr Y wrote:

    As someone who works in mental health i would suggest those who enjoy fox hunting should go to their GP and request a referral to our service,they must be very ill.

    14 May 2010 8:06 AM

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  • Karen Buchan wrote:

    I voted Conservatives in the elections. But the one thing I totally disagreed with is their wanting to repeal the hunting ban. I seriously considered placing my X elsewhere, because of it. Its a disgusting sport enjoyed by disgustingly cruel human beings.

    14 May 2010 3:52 AM

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  • bob wrote:

    Instead of fox hunting try illegal immigrant hunting,that'll be more useful

    13 May 2010 11:18 PM

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  • sandra wrote:

    Having a free vote on repealing the hunting ban was the only thing I disagreed with the Conservatives on. In line with 75% of the British public, it would be my wish that the law is tightened up and enforced NOT repealed! Blood sports have no place in a civilised society.

    13 May 2010 9:02 PM

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  • Georgina wrote:

    What's wrong with drag hunting? fox hunters can play their sick 'sport' without angering the members of the public. Then everyone's happy...or would be in an ideal world!

    13 May 2010 9:01 PM

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  • Sarah wrote:

    The Conservatives stated that if elected they will vote for a repeal of the Hunting Act. The ‘Burns report’ helped lead to this act being put in place, shows why THE ACT MUST NOT BE REPEALED! Below is a summary of the conclusions in the report by Lord Burns that led to the Hunting Act of 2004.
    Basic facts about hunting - The inquiry estimated that the hunts killed between 21,000 and 25,000 foxes every year, some 40% of these kills taking place in the autumn "cub" season
    However, outside of the packs, many more foxes were dug out and shot every year by farmers, landowners and gamekeepers.
    In Devon and Somerset there were three staghound packs, killing approximately 160 red deer a year.
    There were a further 100 packs which hunt hares, killing 1,650 a year.
    There were a further 24 registered hare coursing clubs, a smaller number of unregistered groups and some 20 mink hound packs.
    Hunting and the rural economy
    Burns concluded, "In terms of national resource use, the economic effects of a ban on hunting would be unlikely to be substantial."
    Social and cultural issues
    While the hunt had a significant social role, it was stated that this was not as important as that performed by a village pub or church and there were some in rural communities who regarded the hunt as "divisive, intrusive and disruptive".
    Population management and control
    Hunting itself, the report discovered, was responsible for only a small number of the foxes killed every year.
    Hare hunting and coursing, the report found, "are essentially carried out for recreational purposes" and have little effect on population.
    Animal welfare
    The most contentious issue for both sides is whether or not hunting with hounds can be classed as cruel. The inquiry found that:
    • "death is not always affected by a single bite to the neck or shoulders by the leading hound",
    • "this experience seriously compromises the welfare of the fox".
    Candidates that stand FOR a repeal of the act, are choosing to ignore the findings of this report, and go against the views of a majority of the population who stand against hunting with dogs. 700 hours of parliamentary time was spent passing this act and protecting British wildlife. DO NOT LET BRITAIN GO BACK!
    Hunting does not have a place in "civilised" society, regardless of class, gender or where you live!

    13 May 2010 8:59 PM

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  • Maria E Prior wrote:

    I so agree with both the above comments. What sort of people are they that hunting is the ultimate of importance in their lives. How sad. I suggest these hunters get a proper life, go drag hunting, and do something worthy to benefit the community instead.

    13 May 2010 8:52 PM

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  • Paul wrote:

    It needs to be set back... permanently. These so called country folk are sick. They have been in the country too long. I have experienced 'country folk' and they have no perception of decency or real care for the countryside - only themselves!

    13 May 2010 6:36 PM

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  • Joy wrote:

    "Pro fox-hunting campaigners fear their cause will be set back" - boo hoo. I hope it is permanently set back. Barbarians.

    13 May 2010 5:36 PM

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