Animal rights group PETA hits back after Two Tone death

a mused wrote:

me and my wife have fished for at least 18 years we have seen peeps killing fish they catch we have seen grown men standing hip deep in water mid winter holding a fish until they are sure its strong enough to swim away often clearing up line left by the foolish on the bank but mostly we see people enjoying a pasttime that they find relaxing and fun to paint all anglers with the same drab paint that the woefully simple minded peta girls do is not only rude its gleefully entertianing good god woman this is the largest sport on the planet the money generated is huge go bother the hallal meat trade or the veal trade or how about fish farms that now thats cruelty how about the red squirell culls need i go on in short i belive u need to address your man bits envy lady

24 Sep 2010 11:40 PM

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Jonny wrote:

Whats a load of old cr@p.

P - Prats
E - Eating
T - Toasted
A - Animals...

20 Sep 2010 9:22 AM

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John M MacKenzie wrote:

Sorry, I meant Sophy....

18 Sep 2010 8:29 PM

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John M MacKenzie wrote:

Quoting Sophie....

"When fish are caught they suffer immensely."

Wrong. Fish do not feel pain, they are reacting to being caught.

"As soon as they are dragged from the water, they start to suffocate,"

Wrong. Fish can continue to breath for as long as their gills are kept wet. Anglers put the fish back into the water as soon as possible, even if a photo of the specimen is taken.

"and often have their throats ripped out when the hook is removed."

Wrong. I think the owners of the hundreds of lakes would ban anyone who ripped the throats out of a fish. Many anglers use barbless hooks which are much easier to remove than the older barbed versions.

"They are thrown, stepped on, impaled or mutilated while fully conscious and left to die painfully and slowly."

Are we still talking about fishing here? I've never seen anything like that happening to a fish when it has been caught by anglers.

"Fish that are thrown back have often been fatally wounded internally and simply die."

So very very wrong. How come some of the biggest fish have been caught so many times they now have names? Two Tone didn't die because it was caught, it died of old age!

You have either been duped by Peta, or you are just plain stupid. Either way, you have obviously never watched someone fishing.

18 Sep 2010 8:27 PM

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Jon wrote:

Puerile Peta Pesters Piscatorial Punters, Pitting Petty Pishers Against Practiced Fishers...

18 Sep 2010 5:07 AM

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Zeb wrote:

To respond to those who believe fish do not feel pain: Researchers at the Roslin Institue have concluded that fish can feel pain (2003). Researchers at Purdue University have concluded that fish can feel pain (2009). Dr. Victoria Braithwaite of Edinburgh University has concluded that fish can feel pain (2010). The question's still being debated, but to state unequivocally that fish do not feel pain is no longer supported by current research.

18 Sep 2010 4:24 AM

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Al wrote:

The irony is that many PETA activists wear leather shoes, wear cotton farmed in huge agribusiness fields which are created by destroying natural habitats, wear make up made using fish scales etc... The millions of pounds from rod licences protect the environment and i've never met a fisherman/woman who will destroy the natural environment.

17 Sep 2010 5:44 PM

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DAve wrote:

@Jared

DO you honestly believe you can go through life without hurting any animals?? DO you wash your hands? Bleach the toilet? Walk on grass or in fact walk anywhere?

If you do any of these things you are killing animals, bacteria, insects or don't they count???

Is it OK to kill simple life in the name of hygiene but not complex life?

17 Sep 2010 12:20 PM

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EssexRich wrote:

I noticed that many that have sided with Peta (should say retards) are the most ill educated thick idiots I have met.

To those that believe that fishing is inhumane, your completely wrong and have no idea what you are talking about.

Peta should be eradicated from the planet, they are a group which promotes violence and have attacked women and children whilst fishing.

For those that defend them you are no better and should really be thanking anglers for the money they plough into the EA that stops more developers from building houses or supermarkets.

So to finish to the Peta supporters, grow up, get educated and don't talk about a sport/pastime you know nothing about!

17 Sep 2010 9:10 AM

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Dr_Rosset wrote:

The world's foremost expert on the subject is Dr. James D. Rose of the University of Wyoming. He's spent 30 years working on questions of neurology, examining data on the responses of animals to painful stimuli. In 2003 Rose published a landmark study in the journal Reviews of Fisheries Science, concluding that animals need specific regions of the cerebral cortex in order to feel pain. And fish do not have them. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), for instance, operates a misleading "Fishing Hurts" propaganda campaign based on the work of a few "neutral" experts. (PETA says Dr. Rose isn't neutral because he enjoys fishing.) One of PETA's experts is a "Professor of Animal Welfare" who also believes it's cruel to raise faster-growing cows and turkeys. Another is a microbiologist who claims it's "unthinkable that fish do not have pain receptors" -- despite having done no scientific work with fish -- and equates our "lack of justice and compassion to other animals" with human slavery.

It's worth noting that PETA has sought fishing bans in state parks and called for a Constitutional amendment protecting fish. In 2005 when PETA tried to scare fishermen away from their sport by claiming fish contain "poison," campaign director Bruce Friedrich admitted his strategy on an animal-rights mailing list: "For people who don't care about the suffering of fish, I suspect this will terrify them into not eating them." A 2005 Norwegian study reported that lobsters and crabs don't have the capacity to feel pain either. The British Guardian newspaper detailed the study's findings, explaining that lobsters and crabs have only about 100 thousand neurons. Many vertebrates have upwards of 100 billion. Animal rights zealots spin a lot falsehoods to persuade people to avoid using animals for food. But note that many long term vegans and especially strict vegan children are now suffering from irreversible organ damage from not getting the proper essential nutrients people need found only in meat.

17 Sep 2010 3:15 AM

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Long labs wrote:

Yawwwwwwn, wow, brilliant humour, can't beat it! Unheard of! Ha, 'small rods' I wonder how this would apply to female fisherman......
Blush blush

16 Sep 2010 6:50 PM

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Joy wrote:

"Anglers protect the environment" is an irrelevant comment - even if they were the most environmentally-conscious bunch in the world, PETA and others would still condemn fishing because it causes suffering. What a strange and useless attempt at self-defence.

16 Sep 2010 2:47 PM

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Dover Sole wrote:

There's something fishy going on here.

16 Sep 2010 1:00 PM

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Elle wrote:

If you catch fish then take them home to eat but just catching them time after time and throwing them back really isnt right or fair on the fish in my opinion,so i can sort of understand the sign.

16 Sep 2010 12:56 PM

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Sophy wrote:

When fish are caught they suffer immensely. As soon as they are dragged from the water, they start to suffocate, and often have their throats ripped out when the hook is removed. They are thrown, stepped on, impaled or mutilated while fully conscious and left to die painfully and slowly. Fish that are thrown back have often been fatally wounded internally and simply die.

People who enjoy hurting defenceless animals for their own amusement should take a look at the 'Help and Resources' page on PETA's new website http://doanglershavesmallrods.com/. There is nothing manly about torturing animals and it takes a small man to do so. Anglers also often leave behind discarded hooks and line, causing a danger to other wildlife.

Numerous scientific studies have proven that fish have complex nervous systems. They are smart, fascinating and sensitive animals who are every bit as capable of feeling pain as we are, and harming them, whether for so-called “sport” or for food, is never acceptable. They are sentient living creatures every bit as deserving of respect as you or I and with the same right to life. Anglers need to man up and find another pastime, one which does not cause pain and suffering to fish.

16 Sep 2010 11:58 AM

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Mikey wrote:

Fair play to 'em - they can do what they like it's a free enough country.. If anglers can go and fish, then PETA can put up their billboard where they like.

I can't believe they found it offensive and immature, it's actually quite funny!

16 Sep 2010 10:21 AM

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Jared wrote:

I think this is a very tongue in cheek look at an important issue - I used to go fishing, and once even attepted to kill a pike by stomping on its head.. since then however I have grown up and realised that harming any other living being - and I say with absolute confidence every living being is capable of feeling pain and suffering - is wrong and should not happen..

If PETA had simply said "Stop fishing" then it would not have made the news and raised the important issue of causing fish pain..

Of course anglers/fishermen will be up in arms about it, they're the most zealous of all hunters/blood sporters, "don't attack me or I'll call you immature - we clean up the rivers don't you know" absolute twoddle!

An inspection of river banks after anglers have been there reveals leftover rubbish, fishing wire tangled, carrier bags - they cause as much destruction as they claim to help.

16 Sep 2010 10:17 AM

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