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Thursday, May 24 2012

Arrests after night of yob attacks

Lloyds TSB in Gillingham

The aftermath at Lloyds TSB in Gillingham

by KM reporters

Police were inundated with hoax calls last night as rumours of yob attacks in Kent spread like wildfire on the internet.

Facebook and Twitter were awash with reports of flare-ups that never happened including fires and looting at Westwood Cross and violence in Gravesend.

In one bizarre hoax call, a terrified member of the public in Deal reported seeing a 100-strong crowd of teenagers.

When police turned up they found two youngsters buying food at a local takeaway and using a cash machine.  

"The people of Kent have shown they neither want nor support thuggery and violence in any form…” – Alan Pughsley

Officers - and reporters from KentOnline - tried to quash the rumours but they continued to spread.

There was a 43 per cent increase in inaccurate crime reports as almost 1,000 calls were made to the force control room between 6pm last night and 6am this morning.

That compares to 700 the same period last week.

The majority of calls were from people concerned about small groups of young people congregating.

Some calls reported rumours people had seen on Twitter and Facebook and other calls were about suspicious people.

In one example a call saying 40 to 50 youths had left a train at Chatham railway station and were heading for the town, when rail staff confirmed no large groups had been on the train and none could be located in the area.

Police did thank the people of Kent for helping snuff out the yob violence that sparked in Medway and Dartford - but appealed for the hoax crime reports to stop.

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Overall, the county was nearly all quiet last night as no major incidents related to the attacks that marred Monday night kicked off.

What crime there was was quickly stamped out.

Early this morning six London men who travelled into the county by car were arrested for going equipped for burglary in Sevenoaks.

Small groups were also dispersed in Gravesend and Chatham and five were arrested in Gravesend for minor criminal damage.

Three of the 11 people arrested following the previous night's incidents have been released on bail. Eight remain in custody.

Officers have no intelligence to suggest there will be further disorder, but the will continue to monitor the transport networks.

Notice at Texaco petrol garage in MedwayPatrols will continue to prevent and disrupt criminalty.

Kent Police is appealing for people to continue to help by reporting accurate information.

Deputy Chief Constable Alan Pughsley said: "I'd like to thank the people of Kent and Medway for their messages of support, and for the information they've given us.

"The plans we put in place last night worked very well, and we will be working hard to make sure it stays that way.

"We will continue to take a zero tolerance approach, we will support all lawful activities, but will swiftly challenge any hint of disorder.

"We sent a very clear message to anyone trying to come to Kent to attack our community to stay away or face the consequences.

"The people of Kent have shown they neither want nor support thuggery and violence in any form, and we thank them for their support last night in keeping the streets calm and peaceful, so businesses could trade normally and people could go about unmolested.

"We will continue to have extra officers on duty across Kent and Medway."

Officers revealed yesterday that two teenagers were arrested in Kent for allegedly using Facebook and Twitter to incite a riot.

Officers swooped on the 18-year-olds from Folkestone following concerns about postings on the social network sites.

The pair, a boy and girl, were taken into custody at Folkestone Harbour at around 1.30pm and are currently being quizzed.

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Police also revealed the number of suspects arrested in connection with violence in Medway rose to 11.

Guards were stationed at shopping centres and garages across Kent are refusing to sell fuel in cans as police try to prevent a repeat of the attacks.

Notices went up at petrol stations around the county advising customers that fuel will only be sold to motorists.

It is thought police feared it could be used in petrol bombs should violence spark in Kent again. 

At Bluewater shopping centre in Greenhithe extra officers were also drafted in to ward off trouble.

"It doesn't help the police if they have people standing by and watching…” – Tracey Crouch MP

In a statement, a spokeswoman for the shopping centre said: "Bluewater remains open for business as usual.

"The safety and security of our guests and hosts remains our priority and we will continue to work alongside Kent police and act on their advice.

"Due to recent events, Bluewater can confirm an increased police presence has been put in place on site."

Earlier terrified residents told KentOnline about the moment violence flared across Kent.

Police and fire crews dealt with a series of yob attacks in Rainham, Dartford, Chatham and Gillingham following the widespread riots that engulfed London.

Around 15 young men, who are believed to have travelled to Medway by train, caused damage by setting several fires.

Officers have now arrested 11 men in connection with the violence who are currently being held at Medway police station.

Violence also sparked in Dartford as vandals tried to torch a community centre.

 

In New Street, Chatham, a terrified resident saw what he described as a Ford Focus set alight.

The man, who did not want to be named, said: "There was a group of youths and a big commotion.

"I heard the glass go from the windows then they took the handbrake off.

"It rolled and crashed straight into my son's van. He's not happy.

"The police were here in about 15 minutes. They took the car away on a low loader 'for forensics' but I don't know what forensics they'll get from a brick.

Aftermath of a car set on fire last night in the Tesco multi-storey car park, Eldon Street, Chatham"They're all just getting on the bandwagon. I think this is down to ineffective policing."

Ten firefighters were called to Dartford's Tree Estate Community Centre in Cedar Road at 10.30pm.

Firefighters were alerted by a member of the public who said vandals poured petrol over the front door.

Although the building was set on fire, firefighters said the centre was strong enough to withstand the flames.

Kent Police maintained a presence at the centre throughout the evening.

Watch manager Lee Abel said: "We just want to reiterate the words of the government, to keep an eye on your children and know where they are.

"There are gangs of youths that are making the most of the opportunites that have arised over the vandalism."

Mr Abel also called for communities to be vigilant in wake of the attack.

The first incident in Medway was reported at 8.30pm in Gillingham High Street which saw the men involved in confrontations with police officers.

The car fires in New Street, Chatham, were started shortly before 1am, followed by another in the Wickes car park in Maidstone Road, Chatham, at 1.07am.

A third car fire in the Chatham Tesco multi-storey car park at Eldon Street at 1.29am.

Aftermath of a car set on fire last night in New Street, Chatham.

A van hit by a torced car last night in New Street, Chatham

Almost an hour later, at 2.20am, fire crews dealt with a small rubbish blaze in a shelter at Rainham High Street, Rainham, before tackling a number of bin fires in Gillingham High Street at 2.34am.

Officers also dealt with numerous incidents of criminal damage to cars.

A police spokesman said "significant police resources" had been sent to the area. There have been no further incidents reported.

"Thankfully, no-one was injured in any of the incidents. An investigation is now underway to identify all those involved."

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Police have appealed for any information about the incidents and those responsible for them.

Chatham MP Tracey Crouch said: "Last night, about 15 kids came down from London intent on causing damage.

"They managed to set a few cars on fire in Chatham and there was some minor damage to buildings, but nothing was stolen.

"There were no riots in Chatham last night - there was some mindless thuggery. These are clearly minor disturbances."

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Miss Crouch, who is keeping in regular contact with Kent Police Chief Constable Ian Learmonth, is due to meet Chatham traders at lunchtime.

She added: "This evening we need to be prepared and one of the things the community can do is make sure their kids are inside.

"It doesn't help the police if they have people standing by and watching.

"A lot of people are going to be very scared about what they are seeing in London and these feelings are going to be felt in towns across the country."

Gillingham and Rainham MP Rehman Chishti said: "My understanding is it was a small group who have come in from outside of Medway to cause trouble and I know that the police have been dealing with it effectively.

My view

by Alan McGuinness

The first thing that struck me as I walked down Gillingham High Street this morning was the overpowering smell of burnt rubber.

Shops were beginning to open and people were spotting the damage and taking in what had happened overnight.

The front window of Lloyds TSB was cracked and blackened and there was rubbish strewn outside. A large blue wheelie bin was also burnt out on one of the side roads.

A clean-up operation quickly swung into force and you could hear the loud whirr of a cleaning vehicle as it went to work. Within half an hour of my arrival, the rubbish was gone.

Many of the people I spoke to hadn’t heard what happened. As I described what I knew, they were shocked that the trouble seen in London had come to Medway - and many feared if it might get worse.

"I think it is important to note that this is not a result of residents of Medway - it is a small group of people who have come into Medway.

"The people in Medway are great people and they are not responsible.

"I have lived in Medway for years and it is a community here and we will pull together."

Kent Police have revealed between 25 and 50 officers are being sent to London on a 24-hour basis to help the Met deal with disorder on the capital's streets.

Officers' leave hasn't been cancelled - but the force is monitoring the situation on a daily basis.

Deputy Chief Constable Alan Pughsley condemned also the violence in Kent.

He said: "These were mindless acts of vandalism, committed by a small minority, who have travelled to the area, intent on causing damage.

"I would state in the strongest terms that these acts of aggression will not be tolerated by Kent Police.

"Their aim was to try and create chaos, and they failed in that, thanks to swift and robust police action.

"By deploying considerable resources to the Medway area we swiftly managed to contain the incidents and have arrested significant numbers of people in connection with the criminal damage.

"Thankfully, no one was injured, but this has caused serious damage to innocent residents’ property."

"What now follows is a dedicated investigation to find each of the individuals responsible and bring them to justice.

"Preparations are also underway for any further outbreaks of violence and we will be monitoring the transport networks and streets to ensure further disruption or criminality is contained."

"Kent Police has a zero tolerance approach to criminality of any kind, and as these thugs have found out, we take decisive action against those who want to attack the community in Kent."

The violence in Kent followed outbreaks of disorder across London last night which spread to Birmingham, Liverpool and Bristol.

Prime Minister David Cameron today revealed Parliament will be called back from its break to discuss how the violence should be tackled.

In response, North Thanet MP Roger Gale said he would welcome the use of water cannons in Britain if needed to disperse the yobs.

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He said: "It is absolutely right that Parliament should have the opportunity to hear from the Prime Minister and to question the action that is being taken and the facilities that are being made available to enforce the law, to restore order and to bring to conviction and sentence those that are responsible.

"Not one of us is immune from the effects of these acts of violence and vandalism - those that have not been directly damaged today may, unless appropriate action is taken, be damaged tonight or tomorrow.

"In expressing sympathy with those that have suffered injury and loss and damage I think that we have also to condemn those - including some media commentators - who have sought to make political capital out of these riots and to somehow excuse the perpetrators as the victims of 'cuts' or 'deprivation'.

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"What we have all seen reported on television is straightforward vandalism, theft, criminality and brute violence and it cannot be excused or apologised for in any way at all.

"The robust line taken by the Home Secretary and by the Prime Minister upon his return to the United Kingdom this morning indicate, I think, how very seriously the authorities are taking these matters and I would hope and expect that every measure - up to and including the use of water cannon and, if necessary, the armed forces - is deployed to protect people and property, nationwide, from further injury and damage.

"In paying tribute to the constabulary - who have certainly been stretched to the limit by unpredicted and unanticipated events over the last 48 hours - we also have to call upon the decent people of every community in the country to deny any comfdort, protection or safe haven to anyone at all who has participated in, or is planning to participate in, further riots."

Rochester and Strood MP Mark Reckless said: "I unreservedly condemn the violence and I'm trying to find out whether it was correct that it was people coming in from London or if there was any local involvement.

"We just need to track down the individuals responsible and ensure they are dealt with.

"I've been taken by surprise by the trouble and the speed with which it broke out."

Kent Police Authority chairman Ann Barnes said: "This mindless vandalism and arson is not acceptable in Kent.

"I am in constant contact with the Chief Constable and Deputy Chief Constable and feel very reassured by how the force has responded to last night's incidents.

"I want to stress that it is not the people of Kent causing this damage but outsiders whose primary aim is to cause trouble.

"I was horrified by the scenes in London and parents all across the country tonight need to know where their children are and what they are doing.

"As I watched events unfold in London yesterday, I had particular interest in the rioting in Hackney. I have close family living there and know the place well.

"The borough has always had a vibrancy and confidence about it, so it was heartbreaking to see these young people ruining their own community.

"However, please be confident that the Chief Constable and his team will make sure that the scenes in the London boroughs are not played out here in Kent.

"Whilst there is always a place for sensitive policing of peaceful protest, these events are neither peaceful nor a protest but just acts of total disregard for other people's property, livelihoods, and safety.

"The Chief Constable has my 100 per cent support to use all appropriate and proportionate methods of policing to keep the people, the businesses and the communities of the county safe."

Traders count the cost of last night's violence

Medway Council leader Rodney Chambers said: "It is extremely regrettable that a small number of people traveled from outside of the Medway area into Chatham and Gillingham last night to carry out mindless acts of vandalism.

"Our colleagues in Kent Police deployed considerable resources and swiftly contained the incidents, which I understand involved 15 people who traveled here by train.

"No one was injured, but damage was caused to three cars and a number of bins.

"I would like to thank the police for their swift action, which has so far led to the arrest of 10 of these people.

"Kent Police also say they are confident that they will catch the others involved.

"We do not expect this kind of criminal activity in an area like Medway, and while it is on a much smaller scale than the events that have taken place in London over the past few days, it is traumatic and upsetting to the innocent people who have seen their property damaged.

"The council is in constant contact with the police and we are working jointly to clean up the damage caused.

"We shall, of course, continue to assist the police in whatever way we can to make sure the community of Medway is safe and protected from this criminal activity.

"I am sure that all residents across Medway will join me in deploring the actions of these people who have carried out these acts of senseless vandalism."

Officers are urging members of the public to contact them on 01622 690 690 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

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  • Anonymous @ wrote:

    Where's your lack of a sense of humour and who said anything about picking up guys.

    Think all these people are women not guys

    You obviously have a lack of sense of humour

    12 Aug 2011 6:24 PM

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  • Anonymous wrote:

    Not particularily because I don't use the news to pick up guys.

    12 Aug 2011 6:06 PM

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  • My name's Gabby wrote:

    Desperate for a man and a sxxg not bad in looks and recently fit can be prone to temper tantrums but do great kick in the bxxls also great oxxl and good control of vagxxxl muscles

    Any takers if so meet me at in the car park at Mothercare Bexleyheath

    I await your reply xxx

    11 Aug 2011 7:48 PM

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  • My name's felicity wrote:

    I have bipolar and like a drink my cousin is Jekyll and Hyde Sarah from Hersden.

    I am 10 years older but have 15 kids by 15 mwen

    Currently I want a sxxg and still have some looks though I look pasty

    PS Can meet you in Lidl Canterbury or Asda in the car park require a deposit of a fiver and 8 cans of heineken but so long as you have two legs are good at sxxxxxxg I don't care any time any place

    PS shoppers welcome to watch

    11 Aug 2011 7:29 PM

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  • My name's agnes wrote:

    early 40's and own teeth recently had my teeth fitted with a brace but very good at oral. Looking to meet men who have an active middle leg and willing to meet you beind the 99p shop at a location convenient to you

    PS. Will require a good work out so no men with pace makers please.

    ps. Must also like women with removable body parts

    If interested please pm me via this.

    I am very good my husband and husband in law never complain but both tire easily

    PMT does terrible things to your sexual appetite and I am very hxxrny

    11 Aug 2011 7:25 PM

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  • Sam wrote:

    @countrygone2dogs

    Did you not read the Met's advice that it was allowed to protect your house or business if you feel you are in danger, provided you only use something to hand to defend yourself. It was not just Turkish men who decided to do so, the Sikh community in southall did too. The fact that the EDL showed up drunk is probably why their vigilantism was not accepted, plus the fact that it would not be self-defence, since they didn't live there.

    In light of how police were video'd standing back and being passive, and considering that fires and deaths have occured.. Put yourself in other's position. Would you defend yourself if the police weren't protecting you?!

    11 Aug 2011 6:55 PM

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  • countrygone2dogs wrote:

    We don't hear the politicians or police condemning the actions of those residents living in a predominately turkish community who armed themselves with base ball bats and cricket bats.(It's also an offence to carry an offensive weapon in public with intent)There was clear intent to endanger life and furthermore their spokesperson stated quite clearly that they would take the law into their own hands.Why haven't these people been arrested and charged, the Law applies to all
    What has happened to the two police officers who were seen quite clearly on tv beating a young man with truncheons even though he was lying on the ground and putting up no resistence.
    I am niether racist or anti police but lets be clear; no one is above the law (except maybe politicians who have for years abused the expenses system)but it appears politicians and police are to frightened to upset the ethnic minority communities at the expense of generations of families who have lived in lived here for generations.
    SORT IT OUT BEFORE ENOCH POWELL'S PREDITCTIONS COME TO FRUITION.

    11 Aug 2011 5:31 PM

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  • Lord Chav of Chaversham wrote:

    "Penny wrote:

    Anyone want to meet me behind poundland??"

    Which Poundland and would it be costing a pound?

    You'll recognise me by my bright yellow mobility scooter. I'll be wearing my new scooter cape.

    11 Aug 2011 5:19 PM

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  • steve h wrote:

    Countrygone2dogs..... Whilst I agree somewhat with your principals on immigration I have to say that chavs and thugs who behave the way we have seen are unemployable. Yes we have too many people in this country but lets get rid of ALL sc-m whether British or not and leave the decent ones to carry on without them.

    11 Aug 2011 4:45 PM

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  • countrygone2dogs wrote:

    Whilst not supporting the actions of people looting and burning buildings I have some sympathy with their lack of opportunity and aspirations.
    Lets all be clear!the root of our problems should be placed at the feet of successive goverments who have encouraged immigration into this very small island. Lets put things into perspective, We have an estimated population of 63000000, Australia has a population of approx 23000000. Notwithstanding this we are allowing tens of thousands economic migrants into our country from such places as Poland,Ukraine and many other east european countries to take the jobs that would otherwise have taken by Uk citizens and in many cases working for lesser rates of pay. We have a present goverment (with eighteen billionairs sitting on the cabinet) who do not live in the real world, their only interest is to satisfy the greed and needs of their fat cat friends. I am a 63 year old man who grew up through the sixties and seventies When there were many employment opportunities. We didn't have riots and protests in those days (Its self explanatory).
    Only the rich can afford a univertity education these days whilst those at the bottom end of the social ladder will be left to struggle through a miserable existence. Don't lets be too hasty to point the finger at these poor souls who in the main want nothing more than the opportunity to a better way of life.
    I feel things will only get worse when the older generation begin to receive their grossly inflated utility bills. Again fat cat greed. We don't hear goverment ministers slagging these fat cats off in the same way they have the rioters, Of course they won't they are all from the same sick greedy section of our sad society.

    11 Aug 2011 4:15 PM

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  • Steve H wrote:

    Where are the Medway CCTV Cash Cow cars now then?? Issuing tickets for petty parking offences under the guise of what Medway residents want. Useless morons who operate and drive these things. THe public want more police not these money raising pathetic little vehicles. These things never catch anyone doing real harm do they?

    11 Aug 2011 4:11 PM

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  • Ps for Penny wrote:

    Were you the fat lady seen running out of Peckham Poundland having looted quite a few packets of crisps.

    I mean if your going to loot at least loot something worthwile if your going to get your picture on cctv.

    Not worth going to prison for a fiver is it unless your a secret salted crisps eater

    11 Aug 2011 3:36 PM

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  • Had to laugh wrote:

    Had to laugh about the commment about Deal about the hoax call about 100 strong youth crowd in Deal about to loot and when the police turned up they found 2 teenagers with take away food and drawing money out

    It is funny but on the other hand it wasted police time - very silly

    Good job the police have a sense of humour I call it wasting police time

    11 Aug 2011 3:19 PM

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  • Penny likes a pounding wrote:

    I think someone called pounder wants to meet you behind Poundland keep your wig fixed securely as your need it when he pounds you

    Wispa021 yes no point looting Margate or even Chatham not much in either town to loot

    11 Aug 2011 3:04 PM

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  • Penny wrote:

    Well after reading the last few comments i felt i just had to add my own... I am under 50(ish), have all my own teeth (they were only fitted last year), a full head of hair (courtesy of wigs r us) and full use of my arm and leg.

    Anyone want to meet me behind poundland??

    11 Aug 2011 2:30 PM

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  • Wispa021 wrote:

    No point anyone Looting in Margate got no bloody shops open

    11 Aug 2011 1:57 PM

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  • Wispa021 wrote:

    Im not suprised that people of previous good character have been caught looting,
    MPs had a riot when they looted the expenses from the public purse.
    Didnt see courts open all night to prosecute them.

    11 Aug 2011 1:54 PM

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  • wild3jeff wrote:

    In my opinion, some of these people (black, white, brown, purple, Martian)deserve to be shot. There are opportunities for everyone to make it in this country, and I repeat, EVERYONE.

    It's no wonder I tell people that the system here is so pampering.

    11 Aug 2011 1:36 PM

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  • @ Anonymous? wrote:

    fancy a date?

    11 Aug 2011 1:34 PM

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  • Anonymous wrote:

    Some of you people are so ignorant, this is a serious matter and you're acting like idiots trying to hook up. There are other websites for that. And as for the whole race and imigrant business, where would this country be without them. You lots need to grow up as much as the youths that are doing these serious and law breaking crimes.

    11 Aug 2011 1:26 PM

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  • @ Karen wrote:

    complete and utter tw4t.

    How ignorant are you...its people like you we need to kick out the country..

    11 Aug 2011 12:51 PM

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  • karen wrote:

    I should point out that I am a thick racist and have no knowledge of UK history.

    11 Aug 2011 10:24 AM

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  • Kenny wrote:

    Totally agree with Gabriella. Well said indeed!

    11 Aug 2011 10:21 AM

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  • karen wrote:

    its as people say before the immgrants came to this country we had none of this. but now stabbing shooting rapes on the up. now we have a roit going on. send them back to where they came from make this a better place for us english

    11 Aug 2011 9:34 AM

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  • Gabriella wrote:

    Not sure why an earlier comment of mine was removed because I pointed out a home truth based on documented fact and video and cctv evidence that Woolwich in South East London was looted by mainly black and immigrant youths and people.

    There is also pictures quite freely available showing that some white people have been humilated in to stripping by black youths.

    I am not racist for saying this.

    But this is a race issue of prejudice by black people against whites and if my comment is being censored again then this is why we have the problems with these riots.

    These people regardless of colour are not above the law. They have devastated a town centre where I live and burnt down shops putting at least 500 people out of work. Some of them are working in good jobs one is a charity worker who was charged with stealing another stole from Primark in Peckham

    Hope the government cracks down on human rights and childrens rights and teaches young people and all people coming to the UK you have to respect the british way of life

    There is a lot of anger towards immigants now in Woolwich over what has happened with some youths blatantly laughing about what they have done. Obviously I have been only to happy to name and shame people I recognise from CCTV.

    It isn't a case that people are being arrested because of the colour of their skin or they are teenagers. They are being arrested because their is cctv evidence of them looting and setting fire to buildings. You do the crime you should do the time and a long time at that not a few weeks because of a first offence

    11 Aug 2011 8:51 AM

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  • Jane wrote:

    Ok, I'll be there. What time is the badger parade?

    10 Aug 2011 9:45 PM

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  • Lord Chav of Chaversham wrote:

    "@ Jane wrote:

    I am about 10-15 mins from Swale and in my mid 20's, you?

    10 Aug 2011 4:02 PM"

    I'm in my late 40's, just signed up for my jsa. As they say, life begins at 50. Meet me behind Tescos 12AM. I'll be the one with a flower in my lapel.

    10 Aug 2011 9:43 PM

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  • HRH The Honorable Lord Viscount Chav of Chaversham wrote:

    "c wrote:

    the last few comments don't seem to have anything to do with the rest of the comments on this subject

    10 Aug 2011 6:50 PM"

    A bit like the one above too.

    10 Aug 2011 9:40 PM

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  • HRH The Honorable Lord Viscount Chav of Chaversham wrote:

    "Stafford owner wrote:

    Shoot em.

    09 Aug 2011 8:22 AM"

    Where is your humanity? Your empathy? Your sympathy? These children are our future, teach them well and let them lead the way, show them all the beauty they possess inside.....

    10 Aug 2011 9:39 PM

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  • c wrote:

    the last few comments don't seem to have anything to do with the rest of the comments on this subject

    10 Aug 2011 6:50 PM

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  • @ Jane wrote:

    I am about 10-15 mins from Swale and in my mid 20's, you?

    10 Aug 2011 4:02 PM

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  • Jane wrote:

    how old are you hun and what area do you live in

    10 Aug 2011 3:58 PM

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  • @ Jane wrote:

    Why dont you try me on for size :p

    10 Aug 2011 3:58 PM

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  • Jane wrote:

    Swale

    10 Aug 2011 3:56 PM

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  • @Jane wrote:

    What area is the area in question?

    10 Aug 2011 3:53 PM

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  • Claire wrote:

    @Honest John

    oh no I wouldnt go back, just miss certain things, and being single I proabably have a slightly different perspective, I think if you are settled, then other things are less importnant anyway, like nightlife etc

    10 Aug 2011 3:52 PM

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  • honest john wrote:

    @ clair
    i know what you mean i miss the night life but not the people
    im lucky my wife does not drink so only a phone call away
    no way would i go into sittingbourne for a drink full of sc** and you cant eat in town nothing there
    but the out skirts of sittingbourne very nice no way would i go back to live in london

    10 Aug 2011 3:49 PM

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  • Jane wrote:

    @ claire

    most importantly, no decent single guys in this area, mores the pity

    10 Aug 2011 3:43 PM

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  • Claire wrote:

    @ honest John

    but thas my point exactly, cab fares from Maidstone are a joke, yes London has changed, but I do miss the night buses, cheap cab fares etc,

    every where you go here, you have to drive, so cant drink etc

    10 Aug 2011 3:33 PM

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  • honest john wrote:

    @clair
    i also lived in london untill 5 years ago had to get out no good for kids
    as for going out who goes out in sittingbourne try maidstone
    as for the town center being racist,racist for who last time i went into town no english there

    10 Aug 2011 3:30 PM

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  • @ Tania wrote:

    Shall i meet you behind the bike sheds my flower?

    10 Aug 2011 3:25 PM

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  • Claire wrote:

    @ honest john


    I lived in London for 30 years, at least there was life there, bars, clubs, decent shops etc, I am sure the outskirts of Sittingbourne are fine, but the centre is dull and has no soul and most people seem parochial and racist

    10 Aug 2011 3:19 PM

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  • honest john wrote:

    CLAIR
    Sittingbourne is calm you try living in london
    if you do live in one of the bad spots in sittingbourne get out loads of nice spots in sittingbourne

    10 Aug 2011 3:15 PM

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  • Tania wrote:

    @ Doug

    dont really know Herne Bay, but when i moved areas and felt a bit lost, contacted my local library for details of a book club, local leisure centre to join a gym, yoga classs etc, and joined alocal walking club, oh and if you are single, then so am I, if you want to meet up sometime

    10 Aug 2011 3:11 PM

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  • Doug Mountjoy wrote:

    Can anyone please tell me if anything is going on in Herne Bay.
    I moved here a year ago and I'm absolutely bored rigid.
    Anything going on? A book club will do, or even flower arranging classes.
    Please...I am very, very bored!

    10 Aug 2011 2:40 PM

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  • Claire wrote:

    @ ace

    Sittingbourne is hardly calm and tranquil,

    it is grey, drab, and full of trouble

    10 Aug 2011 2:07 PM

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  • ace wrote:

    There is no trouble in Sittingbourne. It is a calm & tranquil place

    10 Aug 2011 1:47 PM

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  • Tania wrote:

    @ John, yes in theory I agree with you, but the method of policing will not change, until we get away from the soft approach they have been forced to use,

    stop and search issues for example, the public need to accept this is a necessity, and anyone who argues this , must have something to hide , civil liberty/human rights twaddle, if the police suspect something, they should have the power to act, anyone moaning about these riots, should only be moaning if they currently give the police their full backing, not always slating them

    10 Aug 2011 1:13 PM

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  • sarah wrote:

    lack of respect,

    10 Aug 2011 12:24 PM

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  • john wrote:

    in 1969. in the shelter of a betting shop in belfast, gerry fitt, amongst others, signed a motion to bring troops in to restore order. 30 years and thousands of dead and injured, later. it was deemed to be not such a brilliant idea. the current riots/criminality, are bad enough, but if the army or the police, start to shoot ppl, what do you think the reult would be? the hundreds of gnags that currently exist, would probly use weapons, publicly leading to further disorder. Its about time government and police, looked at different methods of policing, foget all the speed cameras, police driving about in fancy police cars, and all the other nonsense that has deined the police service. scenaio 1. saturday nite, in a city anywhere in the uk, 2 officers on the beat, estimated time in the area 20, mins to observe and probly prevent minor disorder, scenario 2. police car with 2 officers, drive past ame area in approx 3 seconds. how can that help prevent trouble and disorder. time to rethink.

    10 Aug 2011 12:06 PM

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  • Rosemary wrote:

    I am glad to see that our young community have been bigger than that to even consider trashing their home towns. We have many good kids in Medway and we should not block them all together with the yobs of London. I for one have seen the good and the bad but our kids are trying hard. Give them some credit. All the trouble is coming from outside the Medway so it has nothing to do with not having a job. It is to do with respect. I am just glad to see that most of them have it

    10 Aug 2011 11:31 AM

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  • rob copp wrote:

    Karla i disagree dont put them on planes give them a 5 week boat journey to think about what they have done no goochie stuff just you the sea freezing cold may i add but not to somalia sod them we tryed to help them once and they just murdered soldiers yes the civilian populus did too before you say they didnt boat in to pakistan coaches from pakistan to HELMAND AFGHANISTAN give them body armour a weapon rounds then drop them with the us marines in SANGIN see how long there hard man attitudes last them i garentee by 2 hours of constant attacks and ied blast they will have cryed for mummy

    10 Aug 2011 10:37 AM

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  • Karla wrote:

    How about loading all these yobs into army planes and transporting them over to Africa. They can have a bed and meals as long as they help look after all those refugees from Somalia who are dying of hunger and don't have a materialistic bone in their body. Six months of seeing how some people suffer and don't complain might make them change their attitude a bit. It will save having to use our taxes to keep them in prison (if what David Cameron intimates) and it they don't comply, then they don't get fed!!

    10 Aug 2011 10:03 AM

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  • June wrote:

    The Police need to keep a watch on the Vineries. They've banned some moped drivers so why are the kids coming home now on their pushbikes at 2/3 in the morning, having been hanging around the High Street?

    10 Aug 2011 10:00 AM

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  • Billie wrote:

    I moved from south London to Kent to get my children away from tis type of violence and the peer pressure they would have received to include themselves in these ridiculous acts of criminality and greed.
    I'm so glad I did. But when I hear rumours of the unest in Kent I'm scared for my children.
    Is nowhere safe anymore?

    10 Aug 2011 9:41 AM

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  • unknown wrote:

    unfortunately this country is a joke and all the loosers that started keep saying its about the poor bloke that got shot but its not its now about greediness and lets see who is the hardest. the government wont do nothing and the commissioner as they are to up on human rights what the idiots dont realise is they are wrecking their own home towns that really sums up how stupid they are. the bloke that got shot yes that was awful and his family must feel absolutely heartbroken now the great people of so called great britain have also put this on them making them feel even worse well done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

    10 Aug 2011 8:32 AM

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  • to late!! wrote:

    Now we're fighting the fires which could have been prevented if mamby pamby human rights rules hadn't handed the upperhand to the offenders. Respect has gone out the window, the children of the parents who didn't give a dam are running riot, not just now but every Friday night and weekend, in a few years children of these children will be on the streets making most town centres which aren't already over run by yobs of an evening no go areas. I'd never have sworn at a policeman or teacher, you'd have got a chuff round the ear from them and then one from your dad! and right it was to, I'm not condoning beating your children, try taking all their electrical items out of their rooms, playstation/ xbox, tv, compter etc, or unplug the internet,stop paying for their phone or xbox live, believe me they'll soon see the error of their ways!! I teach my kids respect, I always know where they are and what the're upto, they ring ME and text becuase they have respect and are responsible, do YOU know where your kids are at night and what the're up to?

    10 Aug 2011 8:24 AM

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  • Poppy Smith wrote:

    If the local news stop sensationalising about events in Kent perhaps the rumour mills would stop. There is no rioting in Medway or Sittingbourne or Maidstone.

    10 Aug 2011 8:19 AM

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  • Chris wrote:

    Although the acts commited have been terrible and disgusting, Lloyds TSB should really be asked why there was that ammount of cardboard/rubbish that had been placed outside for the past 2 weeks.

    10 Aug 2011 8:15 AM

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  • a sensible person wrote:

    Any persons convicted of criminal acts during the current London riots should have all financial benefits removed. No tax payer should have to contribute to those who have destroyed property, stolen from their community and shown a disregard for the country that provides for them.

    10 Aug 2011 7:56 AM

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  • TYROB wrote:

    I say bring back national service! It will sort a shed tonne of problems with anti-social issues with young people in england today. this may sound old fashioned but im only 28yrs old myself and to be honest these people who are looting shops are only shooting themselves in the foot they will need these shops one day!

    10 Aug 2011 1:07 AM

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  • kju wrote:

    does anyone has any more info on sittingbourne? thankyou

    10 Aug 2011 12:59 AM

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  • RR wrote:

    I hope Kent has had a quiet night. Seeing as the trouble last night was mostly caused by people from London, there is no reason it should continue.

    Not seeing any reports on BBC, and nothing from friends on Facebook. A couple of people have mentioned Sittingbourne, but I imagine if it was really kicking off we would be hearing about it.

    10 Aug 2011 12:50 AM

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  • Rob wrote:

    Dose anyone now whats going on in Sittingbourne????

    09 Aug 2011 11:51 PM

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  • Borja wrote:

    Just a question. Should the law be more agressive with those who participate in any anti-social behaviour? You work so hard for almost your life and see in front of you that all the sweat, tears and hard-work is brushed away by the fire... Shouldn´t them to be strongly punished? Just a though...

    09 Aug 2011 11:32 PM

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  • gary douglass wrote:

    does any one know the state in maidstone at the moment other half at work in wilkos and am worried

    09 Aug 2011 11:30 PM

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  • AM wrote:

    It disgusts me to even think that the human race has left behind their savage ways in the caves of pre-history. It appears that curse of savagery is still a pestilence in the DNA. When are the human race ever going to learn? You can yourselves a civilized society and yet go around like wild bears in a rampage. If these yobs use social network sites as a means of inciting this horror, the government should work the technology experts to pin-point where the inciting messages are coming from and close the accounts of those yobs once their IP address is picked out. Not only should the computer equipment of those yobs should be confiscated, but they should be fined heavily to repay the damages caused to public or private property. If they can't afford the fine...JAIL TIME.

    09 Aug 2011 11:09 PM

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  • d wrote:

    in minster is ok as now...

    09 Aug 2011 11:05 PM

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  • H wrote:

    there are police going around sittingbourne, and smell of smoke in the air. cars have been smashed.

    09 Aug 2011 11:00 PM

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  • clean up our streets wrote:

    Rubbish outside LloydsTSB was missed on collection day, reported to the council who promised to remove it on Friday night. Reported again on monday morning, promised to be removed with market rubbish monday night!

    09 Aug 2011 10:21 PM

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  • do the right thing wrote:

    Well, everyone has an opinion, some more extreme than others. Some pander to their prejudices and others speak of disgust. But, how many will report someone they suspect or know has/is involved in these incidents ?
    The parents ?? Ha Ha, what a laugh. I honestly doubt that the majority of their parents are the slighest bit bothered about what their kids are doing. In reality their parents may not be any better, just a bit older so don't go out so much of an evening doing "stuff". And, just think in about 10-15 years time the offspring of the current bunch of rioters may be doing the same thing then and we're going to expect their parents to take responsibilty for them ?
    All you people that post here and write of your digust and indignation are the people who need to stand up and be counted. If you hear someone bragging about what they have done report them. If you spot someone selling stuff in pubs or bootfairs that looks like it could be knock off then report them. Do it anonymous via Crimestoppers if you like but do your bit if you can. Don't bury your head in the sand, act and react !

    09 Aug 2011 10:17 PM

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  • Gabriella wrote:

    It's not just immigrants or black people doing this, apparently some people charged are Youth Workers and a Graphic Designer people who should know better but were greedy.

    I really think the question that needs to be asked is what sort of society Britain has been allowed to become since the early 1980's whatever it is it needs to be thought long and hard and changed.

    Very worrying to see what is going on up North. Very glad that it has stopped in London but for how long and what about the normality of life coming to a halt.

    Such a shame to see a country that is in the doldrums as it is destroy itself even further

    Depressing times for the UK

    09 Aug 2011 9:46 PM

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  • Nik wrote:

    This is not political, this is not because there are no opportunites, jobs etc etc - this is about committing criminal & mindless acts of violence, nothing more, nothing less. There are NO excuses! They are committing these acts because they want to and due to the lack of powers the police have that they can. I hope "reap what you sow" becomes very true to these thugs

    09 Aug 2011 9:10 PM

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  • e wrote:

    this country will never learn when all this blows over will there be anything in place to prevent this again? NO!! they should bring back compulsary military service for 18-21 yr olds, lets see if they can be rude and cause damage then, thety will be put into line, stop signing on and actually leave there with the hope and values of a future, talking doesnt work!

    09 Aug 2011 9:09 PM

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  • Chrissie wrote:

    The headlines in todays papers should have read
    PARENTS SORT YOUR KIDS OUT!
    If the parents of these yobs took more of an interest in their kids and didn't let them roam the streets at night most of the trouble could have been avoided.I'm sure most of the parents of these thugs know that their kids are up to no good but just don't care as long as they don't have them at home with them they can do what they like.

    09 Aug 2011 8:46 PM

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  • Robster wrote:

    Just watching the sky news on Manchester. I note with some distress that most of the masked stone throwing youth's are coloured and late teens.
    Rubber bullet's and fire canons must be engaged immediately.

    09 Aug 2011 8:38 PM

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  • proud to live in medway wrote:

    The yobs that started in medway last night were from london nothing to do with medway - please dont moan about medway, everywhere has the odd rough spot - where i live is lovely. i am from sittingbourne originally and thats just as nice. kent is somewhere to be proud of its such a nice place and we need to make sure these mindless idots dont ruin our gorgous county!!

    09 Aug 2011 8:32 PM

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  • John wrote:

    Benny Bones, your English is appalling! I admire your 'guts' though to practice on public forums.

    09 Aug 2011 8:31 PM

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  • Gosboy wrote:

    I've read quite a few of the posts today. I am not going to pretend that I know why this is happening, but I do believe this.... It has nothing to do with Medway Towns letting Kent down, Enoch flippin Powell, people wearing tracksuits etc. This is about one thing. They are vermin, intent on wilful destruction of property because they have none of their own and not likely to do so by honest means. The law is there to protect. Has it done so?

    09 Aug 2011 8:29 PM

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  • Twiggy from Gillingham Medway!!! wrote:

    To the people who have stated that Medway is the worst of Kent, or lettting Kent down. My kids, husband & myself are born & raised in the Medway Towns, Dont tar everyone with same brush we know right from wrong & have respect for ourselves & others & the area we grew up in!!!! A few brain dead idiots might cause trouble but what do you expect in a society so caught up with human rights for the criminals & not being allowed to dicipline in schools or any where else. When I grew up a clip round the ear or more, sorted you right out!!!
    Proud to be from the MEDWAY TOWNS!!!!

    09 Aug 2011 8:17 PM

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  • you are right wrote:

    Mohammed you are 100% correct,people fought 2 world wars,to keep us free,these idiots dont have a clue,think they missed out on brains,vigilantes are the next step I am sure,fight back

    09 Aug 2011 7:29 PM

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  • IAN wrote:

    CONGRATULATIONS GABRIELLA,WHY HAVE THEY GOT SUCH A CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER,EVERYBODY OWES THEM SOMETHING,I AM NOT TARRING EVERYBODY WITH THE SAME BRUSH,MY FATHER TOLD ME ALL ABOUT ENOCH POWELL PREDICTIONS LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE COMING TRUE,TOO MANY BLOODY DO GOODER IN THIS COUNTRY AS WELL,I GUESS ANYONE ARRESTED WILL GET 2 WEEKS IN THE COSTA BRAVA,AND TOLD NOT TO BE SO NAUGHTY FOR 6 MONTHS,

    09 Aug 2011 7:20 PM

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  • JAY wrote:

    Why are some posters on here giving a 17 year old girl grief for sharing her opinion?

    We are all entitled to one, leave the girl alone. Atleast she is trying to make something good with her life instead of some other people her age. Well done, not all young people are trouble makers.

    Moving back to the subject in hand, these rioters having a pop are just idiotic youths jumping on the looting bangwagon and the sooner the Police use full force and treat them like the animals they are, it will continue.

    09 Aug 2011 7:19 PM

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  • Becky wrote:

    They should ban facebook and twitter whist this awful behaviour is on our streets and anyone who uses these to encourage these riots should be banned from these sites for LIFE!!

    09 Aug 2011 7:08 PM

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  • common sense talking wrote:

    Like the majority of the comments on this site, the scenes of violence over last few nights only go to prove that this Country is SOFT SOFT SOFT when it comes to law and order.
    The liberal left-wing politically correct do-gooders should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.
    Being nice, don't work.

    09 Aug 2011 7:05 PM

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  • IAN wrote:

    SHAMEFUL MEDWAY ARTICLE,IF YOU READ MY FRIEND YOU WILL SEE THERE WAS 15 IDIOTS THAT ARRIVED BY TRAIN FROM OUTSIDE MEDWAY,10 WERE ARRESTED,GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE INSULTING THE GOOD PEOPLE OF MEDWAY,

    09 Aug 2011 7:04 PM

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  • MaryDream wrote:

    @Mike, Ashford

    about RR's 1st comment.

    You have completely misunderstood exactly what he is trying to say. Some 'communities' as you like to say are coming together to protect their homes and businesses. No doubt this is done in a defending way of just keeping a look out. The mere presence of some people coming together, may well do the job to deter the rioters not to come near. It is defence not attack, and certainly not segregation in any way you have suggested. Get rid of that chip off your block. Why do people play the racism card so quick, calm down.

    09 Aug 2011 6:53 PM

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  • pen wrote:

    In reply to 'give it a rest'. the answer is.....NO

    09 Aug 2011 6:33 PM

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  • Alan McGuiness wrote:

    Is immoral s c u m who should publish an aplogy for being a pornographer!

    09 Aug 2011 6:32 PM

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  • Medway the shameful part of Kent wrote:

    Everywhere else in Kent can behave except Medway.

    That's why this place is in decline

    London I can understand it because they are ignorant and verile but here please

    They could not even get a riot right and I don't condone what they did. I think the whole thing is taking the pxxx

    We all have a hard time one way or another, some people are long term unemployed, others disabled lots of people don't have money but do they loot no - so why should these people

    This country really is the pits. A soft justice system and ineffectual policing.

    09 Aug 2011 6:17 PM

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  • Curious wrote:

    My post pointing out that there is now an anti rioter vigilante group on facebook has been removed yet the barenekkid racism is allowed to stay.

    09 Aug 2011 6:07 PM

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  • Amy wrote:

    Police should be sent to Ashford, 100% sure they will try and hit up the designer outlet

    09 Aug 2011 5:59 PM

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  • christopher wrote:

    OMG where is superman or spiderman when you need them lol :) hahahaha

    09 Aug 2011 5:51 PM

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  • Mike, Ashford wrote:

    RR. Try re-reading your comment and what you are suggesting.

    09 Aug 2011 5:19 PM

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  • Gerry, Gillingham wrote:

    Lloyds TSB Gillingham have only themselves to blame, that rubbish (boxes ect.) has been outside of the bank for the last 5 days.

    09 Aug 2011 4:42 PM

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  • Mike Williams wrote:

    World News last night - American Economy/European Economy/Japanese Economy/Chinese economy - All going wrong in one way or another......And then....Great Britain, civil unrest, fires, looting......When will common sense prevail ?....most shop-keepers or people in the street are sensible folk who express well thought-out opinions, be it on "Simply balancing the books" or looting, & we vote (This is not a party-political comment) but less & less store is set by what we say & more & more politically correct lip service is paid to us........is this an over simplification ?

    09 Aug 2011 4:41 PM

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  • .... wrote:

    Sammie wrote:

    All this is young teenagers off school bored outa there heads thinking hmmm what to do today then... i know if london are having riots then why shouldnt we just go on a terrorise,,, they are just bored kids with nothing better to do! its not the parents fault at all for all they know their child is at a mates house not on the streets causing mayhem!



    This is why you an idiot!
    Do you know how stupid you have made yourself look?
    All of this you saying is happening because of bordom and you also say your old friends are like this.... Sammie we all know what you've at Thomas Aveling, everybody knows!
    so dont make out your perfect because you are not! you are far from it!

    09 Aug 2011 4:29 PM

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  • point of view wrote:

    if chatham was in riot mode how would we tell the differance.
    the 4 point reason why medway was not hit hard is brill just add one to it
    5)riots would delay post so giro slips would be delayed
    the clean up should be done by the persons arressted chain gang style and all gen public should be allowed to stone them as they work

    09 Aug 2011 4:26 PM

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  • RR wrote:

    Mike,Ashford

    Please stop arguing against things I haven't said.

    I am not sure if you are deliberately trolling or just have the reading comprehension of a 6 year old.

    I never said anything about segregating people. Other than segregating decent people (of whatever race) from rioters.

    Stories are coming in time and time again of a few people in London making a big difference to saving property. *IF* things get that bed here, I hope people would do the same.

    09 Aug 2011 4:24 PM

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  • trace wrote:

    Is it true that primary in maidstone is on fire? I was just leaving to pop in to town and would rather stay away if there is trouble

    09 Aug 2011 4:15 PM

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  • LN wrote:

    CHEERS Joe we need a god laugh and change of subject, salt 'n' vinegar with that.

    09 Aug 2011 4:12 PM

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  • sammie wrote:

    yeah im an idiot... course and im just going to put that down to jelousy because why am i making myself an idiot showing that im a 17 yr old the ssame age as all these rioters and i work...im proud i work in london 'LOVE' briill opportunity and .,. oh MONEY!! dont give a c**p what you people think you cant even grow up and show who you are!

    09 Aug 2011 4:12 PM

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  • Honest Joe wrote:

    Has anyone seen the price of fish these days a nice bit of cod costs the earth still tastes good on a friday night after a nice can of pepsi max lubberly.

    09 Aug 2011 4:09 PM

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  • ..... wrote:

    your making yourself look like an idiot luv. So what if you work in london? Well done what do u want a medal?

    you can't put bordom as an excuse to whats going on

    09 Aug 2011 3:54 PM

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  • Don't know who is more thick wrote:

    the rioters or most of the comment posters.

    09 Aug 2011 3:51 PM

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  • ABC wrote:

    I REST MY CASE

    09 Aug 2011 3:45 PM

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  • ..... wrote:

    @ Sammie
    I bet you name is Sammie Arnold and the only reason u would come out with absolute rubbish like that is because thats exactly what you used to be like! and still are

    Bordom is not an excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    09 Aug 2011 3:43 PM

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  • ..... wrote:

    @ Sammie
    I bet you name is Sammie Arnold and the only reason u would come out with absolute rubbish like that is because thats exactly what you used to be like! and still are

    Bordom is not an excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    09 Aug 2011 3:43 PM

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  • ..... wrote:

    @ Sammie
    I bet you name is Sammie Arnold and the only reason u would come out with absolute rubbish like that is because thats exactly what you used to be like! and still are

    Bordom is not an excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    09 Aug 2011 3:43 PM

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  • ..... wrote:

    @ Sammie
    I bet you name is Sammie Arnold and the only reason u would come out with absolute b***** like that is because thats exactly what you used to be like! and still are

    Bordom is not an excuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    09 Aug 2011 3:42 PM

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  • Sammie wrote:

    16 YR OLD WITH HEAD SCREWED ON!!

    Obviously you havent got yur head screwed on if your being predgudice about "Parents keep a closer eye on your kids, if tehy wear a tracksuit as a day to day wear keep them indoors, their only going to cause trouble"

    Thats taking the situation out of hand why are you assuming that EVERYONE who wears a TRACKSUIT are troublemakers... thats a loada C**P.. i wear tracksuits so does that give my parents a right to keep me locked up... NO

    09 Aug 2011 3:39 PM

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  • ABC wrote:

    @ Sammie

    Yes I can read Sammie, pity you can't spell. There is a recipe for boredom, go and do something with your life, preferably for the good of the community that you live in. Its not rocket science.

    09 Aug 2011 3:32 PM

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  • Concerned wrote:

    I've heard that The Chequers Centre in mMidstone has been closed, not sure if that's true or not. It is a little concerning.

    09 Aug 2011 3:30 PM

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  • Medway Towns not City wrote:

    The Medway Riots facts, It was never going to happen..

    1) Our Medway thugs use Nokia Phones and not blackberry's... Most of the London rioters have been through the penal system and have received a small amount of education in the process and have the ability to use such electronic devices. Medway's thugs on the other hand have been to the police station and let off with a caution. The next step is the citizens panel where they cry "Human rights" and are then let off with soft terms and not even forced to re-enter any form of education if under 18.

    2) Medway thugs are all drunk and incapable by 8:30pm due to Medway councils forethought of allowing so many off licenses to operate and serve them, under-age or not Bud, Stella and White lightening is available to all.

    3) The Medway ringleaders don't want riots as it might cause power-cuts and destroy the cannabis crops growing in their back bedrooms.

    4) The Rochester Crips, Chatham Bloods and Gillingham MS-13.... I don't think so LoL

    The facts are here... it was never going to happen.

    09 Aug 2011 3:28 PM

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  • Paul In Chatham wrote:

    Kimbo22 wrote:

    "Thes young people are defending the right to protest, why are they being castigated for a few random acts of overindulgence." - Seriously, no one has the right to vandalise and burn down anyones property, these 'young people' don't deserve rights and the quicker the rights they do have are taken away from them the better this country will become.

    09 Aug 2011 3:17 PM

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  • Rdot wrote:

    No, don't direct your anger at me, nor resort to talking to me in words such as 'voice of da youth' - because if that's the angle you think I'm coming from, I accept arguments from all of you - I'm a law student, any good society should be firmly grounded on the rule of law and every person involved should be subject to it, I also agree that, although I'm a firm believer in proper treatment and human rights, that perhaps this has limited Police powers just that bit too far and I think their inability to cope with this entire situation highlights the police's powerlessness to protect innocent livelihood in the face of 'human rights' very well and it is something we need to address.

    All I'm looking at from my angle is going beyond condemnation, not to the point of condoning their actions, but simply to say that, agreed, many may be opportunists, but ultimately there is equal chance that a portion of those out there on the streets have real anger towards the country - we can restore order through certain measures and I submit that that should be our priority as most of you have pointed out, but if we arent willing to open our eyes to the fact that perhaps we have failed as a scoiety and that some generations have bourne and will bear the brunt of things, then won't we be taking a risk of a faction of dissillutioned youths, however small a minority this may be, beggining horrific incidents such as this again.

    Again, all I'm saying is - accepted order must be restored and this is proving difficult because of our society being perhaps overly cautious, yet there are issues to be solved beyond that - we will face the same issues in the future if we are flippant enough to truly believe there are so many pure 'mindless criminals' in the UK - however much you may not like to believe that there may be a passion or hatred against their own country driving some of these youths, its a possibility that has to be addressed - I'm not crying revolution, but insurrection perhaps

    09 Aug 2011 3:17 PM

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  • Give it a rest wrote:

    Has anyone got something to add except blaming the blacks? What about the rich white folk who have everything?

    09 Aug 2011 3:05 PM

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  • Town Planning wrote:

    Let's face it,if Gilligham and Chatham High Streets were torched by rioters it would be town planning at its best!

    09 Aug 2011 3:04 PM

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  • Typical! Reckless in the bar again. wrote:

    Looks like from the picture that Reckless is still at the bar and has been joined by fellow local MP Ms Witless!


    Hahahaha. People who get elected as MPs really are such poor calibre. It's a very bad joke. Look at those two. They haven't got a clue.

    09 Aug 2011 3:00 PM

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  • a 16 yr old with her head screwed on wrote:

    There is a reason why we are not called Great Britian anymore, because we are not a great nation but a crumbling one.
    If you want you can blame it on race, yeah i guess you can because this did start off in a black community and I am 90% sure if it hadnt no roits would have taken place. But then if races intergrated with each other there would be none of this hostility going around.
    From personal experience the most racist people are those of black ethnicity.
    Youths are bored, there's nothing to do that is free, the economy is dying and no one has any money.
    The permanently talked about minority youths are thugs and think themselves something special and big when they cause harm to others.
    Watching the news live in Hackney last night watching the police stand about and expected to take it when planks of wood are thrown at them shows what level our once great nation has come to. Police are unable to do their jobs and protect the innocents.
    Parents keep a closer eye on your kids, if tehy wear a tracksuit as a day to day wear keep them indoors, their only going to cause trouble.
    People moan about the lack of money the government has to spend, well stop wasting police time and tax payers money on fighting these roits then the government might have some share cash t better your town.
    Its quite funny these arent actually roits because they are fighting about and for nothing, just mindless losers who get their kicks by commiting crime.

    09 Aug 2011 2:55 PM

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  • Mike, Ashford wrote:

    RR. I thought society was about people of all creed being the "community" not encouraging the various races and religions to segregate to protect their "patch" that will create more tension.

    09 Aug 2011 2:55 PM

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  • To RR wrote:

    @ RR
    What a lovely thought. I on the other hand would worry for my safey as a young mum, as unfortunatlye alot of people nowadays have no worries of stabbing or seriously injuring people in there way. The Law system isn't hard enough, for attempted murder youths go to a Butlins camp with there mates, with protection on leaving. I wouldn't confront any of them through fear of leaving my daughter behind if it turned nasty. And The Turkish and Kurdish are used to this kind of violence and behaviour. they ar more guttsier In my eyes. I just hope it's sorted soon, fighting gets people no one. There will always be battles and it doesn't matter how this is tackled there'll always be something for them to fight about. It's sickening and I hope they see sense soon.

    09 Aug 2011 2:50 PM

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  • RR wrote:

    Mike,Ashford

    Please try reading. I am not suggesting roaming the streets in mobs. I agree that would only make it worse.

    What I am saying is that if the Turkish community in London can band together to GUARD (not roam around) their property, why is the idea so crazy here.

    09 Aug 2011 2:49 PM

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  • Melville-Vs-Medway wrote:

    Well it's done now and lessons will be learned and the politicians will no doubt create a few more catchphrases to use and promote the party over the next year or so.

    The positive is the local citizens who have started the clean-up and are rebuilding their communities. search twitter for #riotcleanup

    The same communities that were supporting the police throughout the riots with first aid and supporting the officers with refreshments during and after the troubles.

    I say forget the rioters, thugs and looters and their demands and build on the solid foundations of this great community spirit.

    09 Aug 2011 2:49 PM

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  • JJ wrote:

    Chilax peeps have a flake and dont stress its all goin to be ok we won the war didnt we .

    09 Aug 2011 2:46 PM

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  • Kimbo22 wrote:

    Call in the army - no thanks - we do not need another bunch of mindless thugs with guns - we cannot cope with the ones we have.Thes young people are defending the right to protest, why are they being castigated for a few random acts of overindulgence.Perhaps thay had one too many ice loolies.

    09 Aug 2011 2:46 PM

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  • Mike,Ashford wrote:

    vigilante mobs roaming the streets is not the answer RR

    09 Aug 2011 2:44 PM

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  • RR wrote:

    Everyone - lets STOP this happening to Medway.

    There are lots of reports of Turkish and Kurdish people in London getting together to protect whole streets for their homes and businesses.

    Why can't the people of Medway do the same? Most of these looters are cowards, confront them and they will run. Of course you should still involve the police, but if things get bad, they will be busy.

    I hope everything stays peaceful, but if it does go wrong, remember WE can all do something about it.

    09 Aug 2011 2:42 PM

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  • Mike, Ashford wrote:

    Hi Barry,

    How's the search for a wife going- you found one yet?

    09 Aug 2011 2:39 PM

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  • oracle wrote:

    Use water cannon by all means-loaded with sewage or slurry, oreven better coloured indelible dye.Looters should be targeted with rubber bullets aimed at the genitals to stem the reproduction capacity.Failing that - nerve gas or napalm.

    09 Aug 2011 2:38 PM

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  • joke about benefits wrote:

    primark isn't on fire...I've just checked. And people will make jokes about people on benefits and jobless as surely if those who are rioting and looting had jobs they would be working and possibly have a little more concern on the knock on domino effects that are being caused by this stupidity!!

    09 Aug 2011 2:34 PM

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  • Rochy wrote:

    SUNBATHING in my back garden in Rochester a gentle breeze and birds in the tree's the odd buzz of a insect and the fluttering of butterflies, Im not gonna worry whats going on as long as my little patch stays calm cos there is nothing i can do to stop it no matter how loud any of us shout, Coffee and biscuits anyone.

    09 Aug 2011 2:33 PM

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  • ex squaddy wrote:

    If only i could pay to be a copper for a day - i bet theres loads like me who would show these thugs what its all about and have alotof fun in the process.

    09 Aug 2011 2:32 PM

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  • Sammie wrote:

    @Jay

    No its not an excuse at all its stupid! But this is the new generation. im 17 years old and i work in london. I want a future i think all these kids are s**m and have no respect for our community, but at the end of the day i know what type of people would be doing this some probably my old friends and it is all nailed down to boredom and wanting to have fun, well in their eyes anyway. The way they see it is as something like this does not happen often and the amount of youths getting away with it in london they think well why should we not give it a go it will be fun. and no they dont want to go to school and there is no way on this earth they would ever read a book or go library. thats a fact! they would rather be out terrorising people and their property. dont ask why they would want to do this other than boredom.

    09 Aug 2011 2:31 PM

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  • Enough with the benefits jokes already! wrote:

    The unemployed are not the ones rioting, its self employed thieves, fraudsters and drug dealers.

    Is Primark still on fire?

    09 Aug 2011 2:28 PM

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  • jay wrote:

    @ Sammie,

    boredom is no excuse, why are they bored, they dont go to school anyway , dont want to learn, have more cash in their pockets than generations before, computers, phones, drugs, trainers,
    have no brains and can not make use of their time , can they not read, go the library, spend time with friends, help their community, no all idiots with a stupid language of their own

    09 Aug 2011 2:23 PM

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  • zone_tripper wrote:

    There were youths of various colours and creeds looting, including white.

    It's a shame that racists use instances like this to justify their racism.

    There are many good, hardworking black people, Asian people, Muslim people, etc, who are appalled by the lootings. And there are a lot of white English who are taking part in them!

    09 Aug 2011 2:23 PM

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  • younger wrote:

    being from s.london my self and moving to kent, i felt very safe last night but upset for the people in and around london where i use to live.. to then find out the thugs had travelled to Kent..... i ws very scared and even worried for tonight but after reading this i feel kent police are going to do a good job protecting as many people as they can & us people in kent need to stand together and protest these out of our town.... stand up to these thugs and get them to stop this horrible horrible things they are doing.

    09 Aug 2011 2:20 PM

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  • nic wrote:

    I bet none of them burn down the building where they sign on every week!!

    09 Aug 2011 2:20 PM

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  • Sammie wrote:

    ABC

    YESS BORED... you can read!

    09 Aug 2011 2:16 PM

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  • kerry wrote:

    @ Shelia, why not quote from a politician from the 70s

    he was right wasnt he,

    you let them in, you will pay the price



    and we are

    09 Aug 2011 2:15 PM

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  • ABC wrote:

    @ Sammie

    Oh dear

    Wake up and smell the coffee...
    Bored!!!!

    09 Aug 2011 2:13 PM

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  • Windy Miller wrote:

    The country has certainly gone down hill since I was a boy in the 70's and my parents were kids after the war - i think those were the best years indeed. Unfortunately apart from voting (and that never makes a difference anyway) we cant do anything about society by ourselves and just have to learn to accept it the way it is. I just worry about my own kids growing up as do todays parents generally - with muslim terrorists, eastern European drug gangs and knife and gun crime on the increase. People who just dont respect others anymore, as we used to when we were kids. A typical pub brawl now ends in death by stabbing or yobs jumping on your head, whereas 20 years ago if yu were hit and went down the game was up and yu shook hands and went home. people were polite and respectful of each other generally. I wish I could move my family somewhere safe but the government has taken all my money to give out those who dont deserve it and i like many others feel cheated. We used to be English and proud and now we are English and mugs. thats my rant.

    09 Aug 2011 2:10 PM

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  • non wrote:

    These arent dissafected youths, these are thugs that are upset because mummy and daddy can no longer afford there materialistic stuff they demand so they are going out and taking it by any means.

    can i say this isnt organised through twitter and facebook where its traceable, it is infact organised through broadcasts on blackberry messenger, about time everyone lobbied uk blackberry along with MP's to suspend it for the time being.
    end of.

    09 Aug 2011 2:07 PM

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  • other than wiping the troubled youths backsides wrote:

    what exactly do Yoot Workers do?

    09 Aug 2011 2:02 PM

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  • sheila kitchener wrote:

    It is not helpful when people quote politicians from the 70's. The race and creed of the rioters is not in question. What we do need to be mindful of is the fact that with youth workers being reduced, police being cut back, incentives to study at college (EMA's) being removed, we are going to have more youth on the street. Most people who work with young people predicted a rise in youth crime - no one expected it to happen this quickly and in this way.

    09 Aug 2011 1:48 PM

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  • Sammie wrote:

    All this is young teenagers off school bored outa there heads thinking hmmm what to do today then... i know if london are having riots then why shouldnt we just go on a terrorise,,, they are just bored kids with nothing better to do! its not the parents fault at all for all they know their child is at a mates house not on the streets causing mayhem!

    09 Aug 2011 1:47 PM

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  • Breaking News! wrote:

    Primark in Chatham is on fire.

    09 Aug 2011 1:43 PM

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  • Carey wrote:

    Im fed up with hearing the term, troubled youths

    we are all troubled at times, throughout our lives, but we go to work, pay our bills and look after our families, seems to me the youth of today have less reason to be troubled than the rest of us, benefits, phones, computers, drugs, light jail sentences, seems a hokliday to me

    09 Aug 2011 1:42 PM

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  • jake wrote:

    Lets not forget that Enoch Powell predicted this


    09 Aug 2011 1:37 PM

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  • ace wrote:

    Aaron - I have to say again families should and try to influence their young people to calm down. It is the responsibility of everyone to do what they can to difuse this situation if able. It is not pointing the finger but asking people to be responsible. The police will do what they can but they also need help from communities. There were too many young people on the streets of Britain last night. Why were they allowed by their families to be there? some of them were extremely young.

    09 Aug 2011 1:37 PM

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  • lizzyfd wrote:

    As a 'twenty something year old' I'd just like to highlight that I am currently studying towards a career working with troubled youths. There are plenty of other twenty year olds on my course and we are all proud of our communities and condemn these acts of careless violence. The BBC have reported how a group of teenagers in Liverpool organised a clear up operation themselves. Don't let the extremism of a minority tarnish a whole age group with the same image.

    09 Aug 2011 1:30 PM

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  • Aaron wrote:

    I've heard national service arguments banded around a fair bit too. I can't agree with it personally. I'm 23 and I have no interest in joining the army. I also have no interest in smashing up shops and setting fire to cars. I salute all those that give their lives for this country, but it's not the answer. I want to see more perspectives of youths as apposed to the older generations claiming it wasn't like that in their day. I forgot that rioting was invented in the 21st century

    09 Aug 2011 1:25 PM

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  • paddy wrote:

    Just a thought.....
    Bring back National Service, these people who want to fight in the towns can all go to Afghanistan and have a proper battle and then we can bring back the real heroes of this country

    09 Aug 2011 1:21 PM

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  • paddy wrote:

    Just a thought.....
    Bring back National Service, these people who want to fight in the towns can all go to Afghanistan and have a proper battle and then we can bring back the real heroes of this country

    09 Aug 2011 1:21 PM

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  • paddy wrote:

    Just a thought.....
    Bring back National Service, these people who want to fight in the towns can all go to Afghanistan and have a proper battle and then we can bring back the real heroes of this country

    09 Aug 2011 1:20 PM

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  • paddy wrote:

    Just a thought.....
    Bring back National Service, these people who want to fight in the towns can all go to Afghanistan and have a proper battle and then we can bring back the real heroes of this country

    09 Aug 2011 1:20 PM

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  • Aaron wrote:

    Oh and all this blame the parents stuff is rubbish. Why are we pointing the finger at anyone other than who was out there doing it. We all know the area we live in, do we expect better. Let's be thankful it wasn't a lot worse. No doubt there'll be police about this evening. To those that love to point fingers, get off your high horse as you're part of this community as well

    09 Aug 2011 1:19 PM

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  • paddy wrote:

    Just a thought.....
    Bring back National Service, these people who want to fight in the towns can all go to Afghanistan and have a proper battle and then we can bring back the real heroes of this country

    09 Aug 2011 1:19 PM

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  • Edward Smith wrote:

    @ The comment earlier directed to Edward Smith.

    Yes I have used estate agents and solicitors both provide a valuable service.

    If you want to sell your house on Ebay to save yourself some money go ahead you dont have to use their services???

    I happen to be flush with cash so can take advantage of the knowledge and assistance they provide. You Peasant.

    09 Aug 2011 1:15 PM

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  • ER wrote:

    Its people like that, who make me ashamed to be a British youth.

    I have no objection to a peaceful protest, where no one gets hurt, but this mess is just an excuse for the uneducated idiots to cause suffering and smash peoples lives. How would they feel if they woke up and their parents car had been burned?

    Every day I get looked at with disgust by older people because I am a teenager and I have always said that this is prejudice and wrong, however I honestly don't blame them for being afraid of Britain's youths, if this is the only group that get publicity.

    09 Aug 2011 1:15 PM

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  • Aaron wrote:

    I don't condone what has happened, it's just opportunists trying to be part of something. This is rather lazy reporting if you ask me. Shall we actually address the issue?

    09 Aug 2011 1:14 PM

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  • barry wrote:

    simply shocking!! I am from Kent, but live in a 3rd world country. a country that has poverty and un employment on a much larger scale, that has to deal with corruption, and yet, we NEVER see this kind of thing happening here in the Philippines. im sorry, its time to empower our fantastic kent police to enforce not only the law but also discipline. let parents also have back the powers they used to have. The uk is trying too hard to be like america, yet in america they have the money and the resources to deal with this. They also live in a prison style state. and to all the kinds, teens and adults who think they are making a stand.. you are not,, you are just showing the world how pathetic you are. Britons are lucky to have freedom.... im really horrified at what is going on.

    09 Aug 2011 1:14 PM

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  • les wrote:

    @ Jenny
    you have totally missed the point I was trying to make, these types wouldnt have pride in their own mothers, let alone a community, so why think that is a reason.

    So why is that Jenny? Who taught them that way of life? The parents and society who do nothing but rubbish this country. Dont teach our kids to "diss" everything. Teach them a bit of respect for their homes and families, or teach them how to change it. And we lead by example!

    09 Aug 2011 1:13 PM

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  • Steve wrote:

    The Australian media are incredulous that British police are not all armed. The general feeling 'down under' is that the rioters are sc*m and should be shot. P.S. Don't emmigrate to Sydney; it is another Tottenham/Hackney/Croydon in the making.

    09 Aug 2011 1:10 PM

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  • Mike, Ashford wrote:

    ian spall.

    I rather think the previous administration had a lot longer in setting this country up for a fall, than the present one who are now trying to clear up their mess.....literally

    09 Aug 2011 1:06 PM

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  • ian spall wrote:

    what an idiot gale is!!
    his government creates poverty,deprivation etc and allows bankers to loot our country and then he says the uprisings have nothing to do with politics
    what a w.........

    09 Aug 2011 1:01 PM

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  • Jenny wrote:

    @ Lee

    you have totally missed the point I was trying to make, these types wouldnt have pride in their own mothers, let alone a community, so why think that is a reason,

    09 Aug 2011 12:59 PM

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  • pineapplehead wrote:

    i have several friends who are police officers in the met who have been ringing up for the last two days to ask if they are needed at work. the force have said they would love them to come in but please don't as we can't afford to pay them. how about we stop these thugs benefits and pay the police to come and sort them out?! time for theresa may to walk i think

    09 Aug 2011 12:58 PM

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  • Mike, Ashford wrote:

    Lee. I rather think it's the next generation that are now three, four, five years old that need to have moral standard intilled by their parents, as I think it's a bit late to turn around the ideals of todays' teenagers and twentysomthings.

    09 Aug 2011 12:58 PM

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  • @rdot wrote:

    You seem to know why these people are angry - please inform the rest of us. The whole thing smacks of opportunistic, arsonistic, yobbing anarchists who are nothing more than low-life thieves who immigrated to our once great country to come and abuse our system.

    09 Aug 2011 12:56 PM

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  • Solicitors! wrote:

    Leave the poor Jamaicans and focus on the real dregs of society - the solicitors.

    Let the cleansing begin!

    09 Aug 2011 12:54 PM

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  • Mike, Ashford wrote:

    It's called "fakemaican" Kelly

    09 Aug 2011 12:54 PM

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  • Lee wrote:

    @ Jenny
    Ah, I stand corrected Jenny. These looters obviously have a great sense of pride and love for their community. That must be why they're destroying it!
    I thought it went without saying they are lowlife thiefing sc um but most lowlife's don't rip apart their own community from the inside out. Along with getting rid of the 'something for nothing' culture that we have ALL ingrained into our kids, we ALL also need to teach them to have pride in themselves and their homes.

    09 Aug 2011 12:52 PM

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  • kelly wrote:

    had to laugh, when they were asking these idiots why there were acting like this, the response was embarrasing, stupld jamaican slang that no on could understand, government dont understand us !!!!! probably cant understand a word you say mate, get a job, pay some tax, vote and your voice might just count, if we can understand your stupid street slang morons

    09 Aug 2011 12:51 PM

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  • Lemon wrote:

    @shocked.
    It is not at all strange that riots usually happen under a Conservative Government. Civil unrest is stoked up by rabble rousing socialist activists to try and make the government look bad. There are more strikes under Tory government for te same reason. The REAL cause of these riots is NOT the present government, it is people using a situation as an excuse for stealing and causing damage for "fun", and the reason the Police can't deal with it is 12 years of Labour government have turned them from a "Force" to a "Service" that dare not offend the criminals "Human Rights"

    09 Aug 2011 12:49 PM

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  • Dave wrote:

    @ john

    well said mate, the police should be called off, they cant bloody win anyway in this society, lets see how people like it then with no protection at all

    09 Aug 2011 12:45 PM

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  • Jenny wrote:

    @ lee dont have a sense of pride in their community !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a load of tosh,, these idiots just want something for nothing, lazylowlifes that have been told by parents and do gooders that the police, teahers etc are they to be abused, plenty of jobs out there, for those who want them, they choose benefits because they are beter off and want to do nothing,

    09 Aug 2011 12:43 PM

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  • GodHelpUs wrote:

    I saw the 'yoof' on the news with a bandana round his face this morning. When asked why they were rioting his reply was "yoo arksin mee? ermm cos people dont like the way the gov'ment is treetin us innit"

    Translated that means "i aint gotta clue, just everyone else is so i thought i'd do it too. They are all sc um

    There should be a curfew, and anyone breaking it arrested, and made to clean up the mess left behind.

    09 Aug 2011 12:42 PM

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  • John wrote:

    Maybe the police should just sit back and do nothing until they get the hippies who like to cry foul and brutality to come and beg them for help. The police act and they are monsters - they don't act and they are useless - make up your minds people

    09 Aug 2011 12:42 PM

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  • @A Ramanathan wrote:

    You've helped my case. Thank you. lol.

    09 Aug 2011 12:41 PM

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  • Rioters wrote:

    Don't forget Solicitors often infest side streets as well as the High Street.

    Let the cleansing begin!

    09 Aug 2011 12:41 PM

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  • ace wrote:

    I cannot believe what I have seen on the news and heard. The youths looting are a disgrace. I am fed up hearing that they all come from poor backgrounds. I came from a poor background and would not dream of getting involved in this mindless thuggery. Families need to start accepting responsibilities for calming their youths down. The Government need to do more to show young people that there are always consequences for their anti-social mindless thuggery.

    09 Aug 2011 12:41 PM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @ Isitme?

    Oh, your comment was one of the brainless comments you were mentioning.
    This is a forum where people are allowed to express what they think is right?
    If you diagree you rightly should? Do not undermine even the silliest comment made.
    Thats democracy, not idiocracy

    09 Aug 2011 12:39 PM

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  • MJH wrote:

    This sort of behaviour is absolutely mindless.
    Disgraceful behaviour which is taking the "Great" out of Britain!

    09 Aug 2011 12:38 PM

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  • Suzie wrote:

    And I quote Annette who said "i think on sky news a loiter hit the nail on the head by saying "i'm gonna get something out of my tax money", cos this country is in debt and is helping out other countries in debt and its tax payers in this country paying the bill, when these other places don't pay tax to help deficit there debts."

    Hit the nail on the are you serious?! Who do you think's going to pay for the cleanup, the increased insurance etc etc? That statement shows a complete lack of intelligence.

    09 Aug 2011 12:36 PM

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  • LCD TV wrote:

    Anybody know where all this looted gear is being sold?

    09 Aug 2011 12:35 PM

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  • @RDOT wrote:

    Really? Have you actually seen what's going on? Lazy, sponging idiots taking the chance to grab what they can.
    What are they rebelling against - not having applied themselves a little more to get decent grades/jobs/prospects?
    Most have themselves to blame.
    Don't pretend the "voice of da youth" is anything other than lazy g:ts wanting something for nothing.

    09 Aug 2011 12:34 PM

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  • Aristotle Von Humperdink wrote:

    Mohamed - you are spot on with most of your comments.

    09 Aug 2011 12:34 PM

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  • Lee wrote:

    The looting and rioting has happened because these young people don't have any sense of pride or attachment to their local community, be it London or Medway. Lets be honest, most people moan about Medway and how rubbish it is bla bla bla, and this thought is also instilled in our kids. People, of all ages, need to start taking pride in their community and if they don't like how its become, then stop moaning and do something constructive to change it.

    09 Aug 2011 12:32 PM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @ Solicitors & Estate Agents

    We clean our heads our homes and keep our work place clean as individuals.
    If we all do it
    The society will be clean automatically. Thats individual responsibility.

    09 Aug 2011 12:31 PM

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  • Gillingham & Chatham High Streets wrote:

    Is there any shop left in either High Street worth looting?

    And how could you tell if there had been a riot anyway?

    09 Aug 2011 12:30 PM

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  • Isitme? wrote:

    Half of the brainless comments on here just demonstrate the total lack of education of people (of all ages) in society today. No wonder we're in trouble.
    Oh, and for the record, it's got to be someone else's fault, not the people themselves, just because they couldn't be @rsed to apply themselves or better themselves in any way. They should be proud.

    09 Aug 2011 12:30 PM

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  • CZAR wrote:

    It's awful seeing my high street filled with rogues with balaclavas on their faces and bandanas on the heads challenging the police. Where has the old strong policing techniques gone?
    It was called a protest against the alleged killing of a man in Tottenham area of London by the police but now has escalated into what I refer to as a national disaster.
    These set of hooligans are nothing but a bunch of idle devil hands that has been waiting for something to trigger them off in other to perpetrate their evil acts. They got triggered when the killing incident was announced.
    It will take the unrelenting effort of me and you the good people of Britain to clear these useless articles out of our high streets. We can do this by assisting the police in the cause of their investigations.
    Mind you, all these messes might even be the efforts of some saboteurs with the aim of sabotaging the government efforts around the country.
    But to the silly looters, I will want them to remember that an idle hand is nothing but a devil's workshop. They need to get something meaningful doing in their lives so that in times like this, they would have been pre-occupied already and to the government, cut down on what you give these people as benefits on regular basis. This will help them to go in search for jobs and that will keep them off the street at turbulent times like this.

    09 Aug 2011 12:30 PM

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  • Rdot wrote:

    It's very flippant to label this as 'mindless' violence. The fact that it might not be mindless and there may be more angry young people out there than the executive of this country thought, scares them. The quicker they learn to listen to the voice of the people, the quicker violent action no longer becomes the only percieved option for the people of the UK.

    Democracy we may be, but if our voice goes unheard then democracy it is not.

    In short, I disagree entirely with their methods, but refuse to accept that this can be blamed SOLELY on 'criminals' just doing it for the sake of it.

    09 Aug 2011 12:30 PM

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  • wilberforce claybourne humphries wrote:

    edward smith dont like estate agents, what the hell has that got to do with little shts causing havok and scaring the hell out of residents, also to mike ashfords comment, you spent all that time just to correct me on something you understood or just to thick to work it out. and remember that its the parents fault

    09 Aug 2011 12:29 PM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    Everyone cant have everything.
    There will always be a section of people who will be the poorest regardless of how rich we all get.
    I would like to give my children brand new this and brand new that. But it will be whatever I can afford to. Theres nothing wrong in that.Thats why i work my socks off. When I cant I will let them know I cant and try and show them how hard it is to et something and that they will have to wait. Looting is no answer. I am sure as children we didnt get all that we wanted but parents gave what they could. But if parents are waiting in the car for their children to bring the loot, as it happened in some cases i think in tottenham thats disgraceful....What are we teaching our children then?

    09 Aug 2011 12:25 PM

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  • Solicitors & Estate Agents wrote:

    Let the cleansing begin!

    09 Aug 2011 12:24 PM

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  • Annie wrote:

    @ annette

    I do not agree with you at all, you cant totally blame the government, children need to learn at home, rules, respect and guidelines, parents have the main responsibility for how their kids think and behave, they learn by example.

    09 Aug 2011 12:23 PM

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  • To Ashford Mike wrote:

    Esatate agents and solicitors continue to hang around infesting our high streets as they steal so much money from retards like you.

    OMG give me strength

    09 Aug 2011 12:23 PM

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  • Markiboi wrote:

    Was gonna say Neanderthal behaviour, but they would seem to have bigger brains, this is thuggery and Criminal behaviour at its worse. To make matters worse who do they think is going to pay for this, us the tax payer so when costs go up next year, very high, just think of how clever this was, i would feel very ashamed. We are mean't to be hosting the biggest event next year, what does the world think of this?? Time for rubber bullets and the armed services to take over....

    09 Aug 2011 12:23 PM

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  • To Edward Smith wrote:

    You silly boy. You have obviously never had any dealings with either Estate Agents or their partners in crime Solicitors.

    They serve no socially useful purpose as they are all
    p a r a s i t i c s c u m whom we would all be well rid of.

    09 Aug 2011 12:20 PM

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  • donna wrote:

    this is just the start of it, police numbers are being cut drastically, be afraid people, worse is to come and we are all to blame, in this culture of do gooders and everyone slating the police for their every move, we are all to blame in some way, giving kids brand new this and brand new that, generation of lazy, spoilt hooligans

    09 Aug 2011 12:16 PM

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  • Mike, Ashford wrote:

    lorncher???

    09 Aug 2011 12:15 PM

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  • wilberforce claybourne humphries wrote:

    tazor the bastads and throw them on there fires if they like it so much. police are scared to set foot anywhere where theres more then two thugs, send in the army, tanks, rocket lornchers, kill the fukers!!!!

    09 Aug 2011 12:12 PM

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  • CMAR wrote:

    Legal immigration is the cornerstone of our economy and our society. I would be happy to swap 30 of the little thugs we see in the local parks for one skilled immigrant who will contribute more in a year that 'your' son or daughter ever will. The reason your sons and daughters cant get jobs is because they finish most sentences with innit or bruv, are not prepared to start at the bottom and probably spent their time at university getting plastered, sleeping around and learning very little (if they even took that opportunity that they wouldn't get in many other parts of the world).

    Strangely every hard working person I know has no trouble getting a job. They may not be a brain surgeon or a bank manager but they contribute to the community and the common good.

    09 Aug 2011 12:05 PM

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  • Edward Smith wrote:

    @ Socially useful - Cleansing the high street of parasites such as estate agencies and solicitors? Are you MAD? Both are required and provide much needed services. What happens if your estate is attacked and you decided you wanted to move and also seek legal action? Who would you turn to? You absolute m o r o n, dwelling on such a ridiculous side issue.

    09 Aug 2011 12:03 PM

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  • To Alan McGuiness - Pornographer wrote:

    Your view might have some weight as soon as you stop publishing gratuitous and pornographic pictures of recently murdered young women!

    Really, give-up or take a course on ethics!

    09 Aug 2011 12:02 PM

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  • Mike, Ashford wrote:

    socially useful........I would rather see solicitors and estate agents in a high street, than the here today gone tomorrow tat shops, junk food outlets, pound shops and the like.

    09 Aug 2011 12:02 PM

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  • Struggling man wrote:

    This has nothing to do with race, colour, background etc.

    These people are criminals doesn't matter who they are. I'm worried as to why they came from London and vandalised Gillingham, it has nothing to do with us! Leave us alone!

    Now the taxpayers have to pay for it now. Dammit I'm so depresssed.......

    09 Aug 2011 12:02 PM

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  • S Ashok wrote:

    Yes I agree with A ramanathan, people are always quick to critisise. This is not a protest but a mere outburst of violence and police are trying hard to confront and withstand them.

    09 Aug 2011 12:01 PM

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  • annette k wenbourne wrote:

    @annie
    i don't think we should take responsibility for our youths of today, it is all down to government making laws, youths know there rights and are encouraged to exercise them, in my youth days fear of a clip round the ear by the community copper or bein frogged marched home filled us fear and dread, getting the cane or slipper at school did us no harm and these actions made you have respect. unfortunatley u have to give respect to get it back.

    09 Aug 2011 11:59 AM

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  • ABC wrote:

    @Mohamed

    Anarchists wish to create chaos, going out onto the streets will do just that. Chaos is their mantra

    09 Aug 2011 11:59 AM

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  • Socially Useful wrote:

    Why not turn all this rioting and arson into something socially useful by cleansing every High Street of all parasites such as Estate Agents and Solicitors?

    09 Aug 2011 11:59 AM

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  • Steve Hufton wrote:

    Do away with those useless CCTV cars that drive around all day nicking motorists that park slightly incorrectly and replace them with extra police on the streets. Sorry, I just realised that the police do not generate revenues to the same degree as these scam vehicles.

    09 Aug 2011 11:58 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    Thesse crimes are so organised through twitter and facebook and mobile conversations.

    Why cant they track down the ring leaders through twitter and facebook,
    Why cant they use phone tapping now, instead of finding which celebrity changed their underwear today.

    09 Aug 2011 11:58 AM

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  • Nohopeforthefuture wrote:

    It looks like there will be a civil war in this country within the next ten years.

    Political correctness has destabilised our culture and legal system.

    Crooks get better human rights than their victims and as usual its the rapidly declining amont of tax payers who are left to pick up the bill.

    Some years ago when policemen were taken off the streets in Medway to carry out 'Intelligence lead' policing, which is a contridiction in terms it was clear that this would not work.

    Political interference and the Labour Party disasterous immigration policy has ruined this country.

    Believe me these so called riots are the tip of the iceberg

    09 Aug 2011 11:57 AM

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  • Wait Until Interest Rates Rise wrote:

    As soon as interest rates you will really see rioting with every bank and building society office and branch in the country being torched.

    This will seem just like a warm-up then.

    09 Aug 2011 11:56 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @ ABC
    SPOT ON.
    However i still diagree that the law is stacked against the victim. In many cases highlighted by the media yes, because thats what theya re there to do.
    Bu there are many more unsung cases where the police have done a fantastic job.

    09 Aug 2011 11:53 AM

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  • Lou wrote:

    I work in London and live in Medway. Is nowhere safe from this mindless violence? When will it stop? When people are seriously injured or killed? Serious force needs to be put in place. We simply cannot accept this behaviour within our community. We need to pull together and show these thugs that we will stand united and not tolerate this mindless thuggery which will ultimatley impact on all our lives for years to come.

    09 Aug 2011 11:51 AM

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  • DT wrote:

    Agree with Annie 100% country has gone to pot because theres been no discipline allowed. kids grow up with no respect for anyone. all down to the do gooders. those responsible wont be punished, will only be put in jail if theyre lucky - nice tv, gym, playstation etc. im 26 but i cant see the country gettin better in my lifetime. RIP England

    09 Aug 2011 11:51 AM

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  • the investigation Group wrote:

    Message to all the rioters ........... u wanna be big men and fight to the death , well get your sorry little arses on the next plane to Afghanistan and stand alongside real men , they're called soldiers and they are fighting a war unlike you bunch of pathetic wastes of space

    09 Aug 2011 11:51 AM

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  • Leigh wrote:

    GET the army back home to look after our lot and help the police who have more than enough to cope with daily.

    09 Aug 2011 11:50 AM

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  • Mike, Ashford wrote:

    how could they tell there had been a riot in Chatham I wonder?

    09 Aug 2011 11:50 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @Mohamed

    I am the fisrt immigrant in my family, a leagal one. Your name suggests someone in your family may have been an immigrant sometime in the past.

    My grandfather fought in the World War 2 for the British army and I agree with you that right now a feeling being a prisoner in your country does exist.
    People abusing the tax system have no place in my heart too as I pay huge amount of tax as well.
    If I were to join your gang, I'd be a gangster. Sorry dude! thats not a lifestyle I wish to choose.

    If one were to take the law in their own hands we would be no less than those animals looting Medway and London.
    We have authorities to deal with it. Let them do thier jobs as much as they can just you and me work hard as much as we can.

    If you are that determined then join the Police and then you have the law on you side to clean up society.
    We should believe in non-violent but non-cooperative moments with the government if we dont agree with a poicy. Dont you thisk so?

    09 Aug 2011 11:46 AM

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  • ABC wrote:

    I agree we must stand up as a community and within that community the heart of it is our protectors for law and order ie: the police force, however it appears that the LAW is stacked against the victim and any law abiding citizen every time. Standing up and being counted seems to be frowned upon and so we look towards our police force, who are being told to keep us safe with one arm tied behind their backs..can't be done..give them back their powers without the threat of them being made the victim.. When you ask someone to carryout a service in your name, give them the right ammo to do it with

    09 Aug 2011 11:46 AM

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  • kenny wrote:

    there is no work ethic any more, no pride in earning money to purchase things for yourself and get a sense of achievemnt, having to save for something, we have encouraged our children to expect everything they want there and then , no shame in claiming benefits, its tragic,

    09 Aug 2011 11:43 AM

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  • Annie wrote:

    I think generally we should all take responsibility here, we have raised youth that are almost encouraged by their parents to dis respect teachers, the police, the law, their elders, neighbours etc, this was bound to happen and it will get worse

    09 Aug 2011 11:36 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @Aristotle Von Humperdink

    I am sure you have a job to do.
    So do the police, they are only human. The amount of restriction the police have in dealing with an iindividual is tremendous. A slight mistake and they can be taken to court and sued or jailed.
    You see my friend these mobs wouldnt dare to do the same thing in their native land. Cause the police will beat the hell out of them or even shoot bullets to disperse them.
    This is not Libiya, Syria or any African nation. So be considerate as you being considerate to.
    Everyone is feeling poorer than yesterday. Thats a global effect. Looting is not an answer to that

    09 Aug 2011 11:34 AM

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  • Mohamed wrote:

    Who's up for going out and helping defend these small businesses, police, homeowners and british people????
    We should start up gangs to round up the immigrants and British S##ts!!!

    Who agrees?

    Who thinks our grandparents fought 2 world wars for us to be prisoners in our own country??!

    Stop the Political Correctness and SAY it how it is!!!

    Who agrees..?

    You tell me you don't walk through Chatham, Gillingham, Gravesend, etc etc... And think Who are all the foreigners sitting around in gangs, living of the tax I pay week in week out all my life.. What right have they got to my money?!

    Who agrees?

    09 Aug 2011 11:27 AM

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  • stu wrote:

    @ram
    The reason i put i`m not bothered is mainly that these days as soon as you say something about any ethnic race you are immediatley accused of being a racist instead of just having what you say is your view and accepted or debated.
    Anyone identified from last night whatever background should be jailed and shamed in every paper.
    I also want to pay my respects to the emergency services and especially the police for there bravery in the face of wanten hatred,i for one would not like to stand there being pertrol bombed,stoned and spat at by the low life we have living in this country.

    09 Aug 2011 11:27 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @ WOZ

    Help fight whom. What are they fighting for. What do they stad for. New Television, new mobile, new gadget and clothes and shoes.
    Are u suggesting we stand by them for that. I rather share a grain of rice with my family and dink a glass of water to fill me up rather than go for something that does not belong to me.
    Yes if its a righful peaceful protest against a government we as people have elected count me in. Appriciate anyone grabbing things that does not belong to them is stealing. So again what are these people standing for. Please explain??

    09 Aug 2011 11:27 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @stu
    May I read too deep into you comment stu.
    In response to your second reply i see more clearly what you mean..

    09 Aug 2011 11:20 AM

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  • Aristotle Von Humperdink wrote:

    Feral youth with feral parents, need a damned good slap. I hope residents take the law into their own hands. You cannot rely on the police.

    09 Aug 2011 11:17 AM

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  • ABC wrote:

    RE notinmyname....
    HEAR HEAR..........

    09 Aug 2011 11:16 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @WARDY

    @stu is right in saying there is no denial there were more black than white or asian or any other. Those areas are pre-dominantly black.
    I am not suggesting hes racist for one moment.
    But why should he not be bothered about being called racist. The attitude does nto reflect the situation. Its not about race. Its only about opportunist and organised criminals.

    09 Aug 2011 11:16 AM

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  • annette k wenbourne wrote:

    this is absolutely disgusting, the government needs to do something quite radical to settle this down, i'm surprised it has taken this long to start the unease in this country. i think on sky news a loiter hit the nail on the head by saying "i'm gonna get something out of my tax money", cos this country is in debt and is helping out other countries in debt and its tax payers in this country paying the bill, when these other places don't pay tax to help deficit there debts.

    09 Aug 2011 11:10 AM

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  • woz wrote:

    You people make my laugh, stop waiting for the police and help fight with them, help eachother to protect our land. Stand up as a nation and fight.

    09 Aug 2011 11:09 AM

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  • stu wrote:

    Not a race thing ram? sikhs defending sikh poperty against attacks last night,same for asians and turks also,no you havent read that but it was happening last night across london.
    Just for you i will change the angle,yes it was youths rioting of mixed races but for some reason 90% of the thieves happen to be black.
    Whatever way you look at it it is a say day for this country and the honest,decent law abiding people that live in it.

    09 Aug 2011 11:07 AM

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  • Mohamed wrote:

    We all have eyes.

    It's immigrants and our own doing this..

    First tackle the immigrants,
    Then our own..

    We are losing England from under our noses..!

    'Mr Cameoran should grow some Balls or step aside'

    09 Aug 2011 11:07 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @ james

    How can feeding people throughout the world cause a flooding of criminals.
    Thats a debate with Border and Immigration authorities.

    The British economy for many years has been obliged with immigrants purely to improve relations with other countries, stabilising certain parts of the world purely in the interest of then British economy. Otherwise mate you wont be able to afford to drive to work due to inflation.
    So one should analyse the situation for what it is and it is criminal activity that must be stopped by any means. Bringing economics and world politics is fuel for anger and a reflects a weak society. I am sure we are biggeer than that. How ever I do agree with you that immigration should be tighter and illeagal immigration should be tackled more strictly. Besides we would love to go on holidays to those few nations as well and thus we can be nasty to anyone. This will again affect our fragile economy, jobs and our well being. However what needs to be tackled should be by the right authorities. Thats why we have them.

    09 Aug 2011 11:07 AM

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  • Kieran wrote:

    I like the way that the local councillor states they were from outside of Medway, is that because we dont have the moronic feral types in Medway? He needs to get real and put out a statement to the Medway youths that this will not be tolerated, by blaming those from out of town hes giving them free range to do it all again tonight as they think it will be blamed on outsiders!!

    What a joke!!

    09 Aug 2011 11:07 AM

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  • Gman wrote:

    Here here Wardy!

    09 Aug 2011 11:05 AM

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  • Wardy wrote:

    @ A Ramanathan

    Stu is right though. It is mostly black youths invovled.

    There is nothign wrong or racist in saying that.

    Why pretend the problem is broader than it is just to keep the PC mob happy?

    09 Aug 2011 11:00 AM

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  • Lesson Learned wrote:

    The kids doing this all grew up with a Labour Government. They've known nothing but handouts all their lives. This is their reaction to the new normal; their reaction to the realisation that the teat's been whipped away, and from now on it's rusks only.

    09 Aug 2011 10:58 AM

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  • Rich wrote:

    This is not a roit!!! this is just a load of THICK O'S thinking they are big. Any idiot can start a fire and smash windows then run as soon as the police are called. I think they should all be shot!!!! who do they think will have to pay for the clean up of the streets peoples business's and homes it will be the tax payers once again, thanks you bunch of s**m who claim benefits and do F-All.

    09 Aug 2011 10:57 AM

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  • max wrote:

    Can't imagine what'll happen tonight.

    09 Aug 2011 10:57 AM

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  • ann wrote:

    These young mindless morons are not protesting about anything - they are going on wrecking sprees for the sheer hell of it! Round them all up and dump them somewhere far away from the rest of civilised society - maybe a deserted island miles out to sea - then let them rot!

    09 Aug 2011 10:55 AM

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  • Notinmyname. wrote:

    Thugs and criminals. They appear to have been watching the riots going on in EGYPT SYRIA LIBYA ETC: Only there people are rising up for freedom, these animals seem intent on taking away the very freedoms that they now abuse the ones our fathers and fore fathers fought for. Play the race card, if appropriate, dial the solicitor don't forget "No win No fee " lest you have had a nasty encounter with a policeman, as you were hurling a petrol bomb towards him and it flared back up into your face!!!. Let the police do there job, I agree the POLICE FORCE not service, criminals are criminals, not clients. I say round them up ship em out dump them in, lets say Syria.....see what happens

    09 Aug 2011 10:55 AM

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  • A Smart Youth Of Medway wrote:

    Its not even a race discussion.. its just some foolish people thinking they can copy what they see on the news. Its pathetic to think it happened in Medway..

    09 Aug 2011 10:54 AM

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  • Robyn wrote:

    It is such a shame that a thug minority give all our young people a bad name. All the teenagers I have spoken to are appalled at the violence reported. My heart goes out to those directly affected.

    09 Aug 2011 10:54 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    @ Stu

    This is a very annoying situation for everyone. We dont want businesses to go bust, we dont want more people unemployed. We dont want more homeless people. Do we stu? Thats should be the focus.
    These riots have nothing to with race. These are purely criminal activities. One must be logical and look beyond the attitude of racism. Thats what makes a society strong. You should have a broader and calmer analysis of the situation.

    09 Aug 2011 10:51 AM

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  • A Ramanathan wrote:

    Medway is a fantastic place. These mobs are trying to divide our peaceful and harmonious society. I hope the residents of medway see this and now is the time to hold together and show we are one society and let the Police do their jobs. Getting the army in is not required at the moment as this would undermine the fantastic job our police does. Give them more powers i'd say atleast under such circumstances

    09 Aug 2011 10:46 AM

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  • stu wrote:

    Don`t care if i`m called a racist as the bbc said the same thing last night,they and i agree it is mostly black youths looting and rioting and i bet in the total number of arrests the ratio of black to white is 10-1.

    09 Aug 2011 10:45 AM

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  • S Robinson wrote:

    About a decade ago the right to discipline your children was taken away. Parents then became the children and children the parents. Children were allowed to call the police if their parents hit them. Now that the children have the police on their side, let the police deal with it. They obviously now got what they wished for.

    To me this is all just mindless criminality..

    09 Aug 2011 10:40 AM

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  • james wrote:

    I blame Bob Geldof

    If we hadnt "fed the world" there wouldnt be so many flooding here.

    09 Aug 2011 10:38 AM

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  • Andrew C from Chatham. wrote:

    I don't think that the government are to blame for this or the Police for shooting a low life drug dealer peddling misery and despair in Tottenham.
    I do think the government cutting spending on the Police service is a shocking school boy error. History dictates that whenever any economy is squeezed those at the bottom of the food chain suffer the worst. Discontent and poverty always leads to higher crime rates. To cut budgets to the Police service when crime is bound to go up is very fool hardy.
    This has left us very ill equipped to with these low life imports and their successive generations, who whether born here or not, do not share our values, morals, customs or love for this country. Those that do from anywhere in the world are welcome, those that do not should go back home and act like savages there. If your alliance is to another nation, then go back there and stay there. Don’t bring your barbarism to our streets.

    09 Aug 2011 10:38 AM

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  • Keith wrote:

    Why am I not allowed to say this is predominantly a black problem?

    It isnt racist, it is FACT.

    Blacks are 700% above percentage of population in prison.

    09 Aug 2011 10:37 AM

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  • Wardy wrote:

    The aftermath from Saturday nights peaceful protest in Tottenham is nothing to do with Mark Duggan being shot or a political statement about anything.

    It is seperate bunches of young criminals jumping on the bandwagon for monetary gain.

    There is no excuse, like immigration, lack of jobs, the ignored youth (whatever colour). They're just tw*ts, that need some respect slapped into them.

    Whether its the Police or Army (and I think the Army have enough on their plates) someone should break out the big guns like rubber bullets and water cannons.

    The trouble is that the police got so much stick over using kettling tactics during the student protests that their hands are effectively tied.

    Unleash the dogs, then don't chastise them when they bite someone.

    In my opinion, you should lose your civil rights when you stop being civil.

    They don't care about the welfare of the decent majority, so why should we care if they get battered?

    09 Aug 2011 10:37 AM

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  • Chirstopher wrote:

    This is what happens when we allow ethnic minorities to build 'hoods', not intergrate and attack our country from witin

    09 Aug 2011 10:37 AM

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  • c wrote:

    If these mindless rioters don't stop,some innocent person/s are going to be killed,can't they get that into their thick skulls

    09 Aug 2011 10:35 AM

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  • Corporal Hicks.... wrote:

    Nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure

    09 Aug 2011 10:32 AM

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  • anon wrote:

    @ DKC Totally agree
    The army need to be used. We need to make them pay for what they done

    09 Aug 2011 10:31 AM

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  • john wrote:

    Enough is enough, Repeal the so called human right act ,it doesnt supprt humans it is used as acriminals get out of jail charter.Bring back discipline in schools .
    Declare a state of emergency and an immidiate curfew.
    Bring in the Army with a shoot to kill policy and set up detention camps on one the deserted scottishj island.
    Actually start removing substantial numbers of immigrants who are hear illegally or who have got any criminal record anywhere.

    09 Aug 2011 10:30 AM

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  • DKC wrote:

    I say bring the Army in round them up regardless of where they are from, what background they have etc... Thats NO excuse WHATSOEVER for burning peoples lively hoods and family homes to the ground! Then bang them up - somewhere - I don't care where - then let them earn their £5 a week inside or whatever they get that allows some prisoners to leave with 10K in the bank at the end of their sentence and make them pay every single penny back to the people who have lost everything! Like the furniture business owners whose family have worked for generations to see their lively hood and heritage burnt to the ground.
    Don't blame it on immigrants, colour, back ground, age... whatever - they are just mindless pond life - there is NO excuse for hurting innocent people and causing fear!
    Rant over ...

    09 Aug 2011 10:19 AM

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  • Is it the 1980's? wrote:

    Oh great Mr Cameron is cutting his holiday short, I feel safer already ;O)

    09 Aug 2011 10:18 AM

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  • June wrote:

    Bring back the Police Force and not the Police Service

    09 Aug 2011 10:17 AM

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  • ann wrote:

    Seems to me that this is now nothing to do with what happened in Tottenham last week - these are just bunches of mindless, moronic yobs ceasing the opportunity and taking great pleasure wrecking things and stealing. Looking at the pictures on tv they look to be teenagers and younger. Wonder what their parents think of them - are they proud of the misery and destruction they are causing?

    09 Aug 2011 10:15 AM

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  • G Reasy wrote:

    @ Michael.

    Shut up you stupid idiot.

    Likening this to the situation in Northern Ireland is complete madeness. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and you are just making yourself look stupid (which probably isn't hard).

    Try talking of something that you have first hand experience in - not hearsay.

    09 Aug 2011 10:10 AM

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  • Mike wrote:

    Can we please read these thieving s**m the Riot Act. If they don't disperse and go home then shoot them. Also, ban the wearing of masks in public. They are only worn to obscure identity because the wearers are up to no good. If they refuse to remove the masks then again shoot them. They are reason they are hiding their faces is to evade detection. It will take very little time for the message to get through! Don't fill our Courts and Jails with the anarchists which will result in more expense to the public purse (on top of the increased insurance premiums that we will all be affected by in due course).

    09 Aug 2011 10:05 AM

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  • Scott wrote:

    @Voice of Reason

    Social networking wasn't the problem here, in fact sites like Facebook and Twitter can (fairly easily) be tracked, for instance one incident planned on Twitter was halted because it was seen by the police. The main social contact problem so to speak appears to have been Blackberry Messenger. That's so much more difficult to track because users can send "one-to-many" messages privately.

    It all is such a shame, and while the issue of immigration is one which no doubt fuels the terrible activity we are seeing in London and other areas, it should never be a go-to excuse as justification for something like this.

    09 Aug 2011 10:03 AM

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  • michael wrote:

    is rioting for looting still a reason to riot Muppet i notice u did not comment on the other comments i made and in northern Ireland i did not know it was black majority. watch crime watch and see who is on there enough said.

    09 Aug 2011 10:03 AM

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  • AlCavill wrote:

    Time to shoot all rioters, let them know wht it's like to suffer.

    09 Aug 2011 10:02 AM

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  • susan wrote:

    This message is for Tony all you are doing with that comment about white's standing up for themselves is inciting racial hatred, what about the people who have Ancestor's that married outside of england etc example in the east india's company rule and have the colouring passed down from generation to generation i myself have the colouring of asian origin, but my family originated from wiltshire does that mean because i am not white that I am not British or that i am a yob or uneducated. every race has good and bad in them these riots have nothing to do with colour,they are just mindless people looking to destroy people's property and causing mayhem on our street's

    09 Aug 2011 10:02 AM

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  • pete wrote:

    Rioting probably more to do with drug shortages after too many successful hauls by customs. No drugs= prices go up, No drugs= no income for drug dealers no drugs = angry druggies who cant afford whats available. So they get angry, go attack a shop, steal the contents, burn it down, sell the swag and raise extra cash for more expensive drugs. Add to this heady mix is the anti society brigade who riot during G8 or whatever.
    The answer is not to throw money at more Youth clubs but to make parents do their job and look after their kids and not let them wander the streets at 12.00 when they are 11 years old. Time for a Human responsibilities act to complemet the Human rights act.

    09 Aug 2011 9:58 AM

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  • kate j wrote:

    just to clarify, Tree estate community centre, cedar road is in Dartford! not Gravesend!

    09 Aug 2011 9:55 AM

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  • Mark S wrote:

    Get the army in now as the police are to scared to get stuck in because of the human rights act. So, simple - get rid of the HRA and get the army in now because they wont't mess around with these thugs.

    09 Aug 2011 9:39 AM

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  • Voice of Reason wrote:

    Close down social (anti social!!) networking sites impose a curfew, arrest those who are inciting and condoning this terror and bring in the army to support the police. No kid glove treatment for the wrong doers. Harsh measures to stop these terrorising mobs, keep these in place, then analyse the cause and find the solution.

    09 Aug 2011 9:37 AM

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  • G Reasy wrote:

    @ Michael

    Firstly, unless you are Northern Irish then you do not know pooh from dirty pudding.

    Secondly - There was one shooting. Riots have happened in almost 20 locations.

    Thirdly Whit people riot for a reason (even if that reason is for somethign as stupid as football), we don't riot to steal.

    09 Aug 2011 9:36 AM

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  • Steve Hufton wrote:

    BREAKING NEWS!!!! 28 caught on CCTV in riot areas of London and South East. 16 were pictured accidentally entering a bus lane, 4 did not pay the congestion charge, 2 parked 2cm outside of a designated area, and 6 had pay and display tickets upside down. These 28 "offenders" can expect to be tracked down and heavily fined & punished! Meanwhile London burns, is looted and trashed.

    09 Aug 2011 9:36 AM

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  • Tony wrote:

    What is happening to this once great country? When are the white people actually going to stand united for once, rather than divided.

    Do the PC brigade think that when trouble comes knocking, your all going to be exempt and left alone? Well sorry, but your going to have a tough wake up call because they will ruin you lot first.

    We have stood by and let things get out of hand for far too long now. These people riot in Africa and Asia and now they riot here. Its got too stop, and we are never going to stop it if we are all standing around saying, "your racist, your uneducated".

    STAND UP FOR ENGLAND

    09 Aug 2011 9:36 AM

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  • CompletelyAndUtterlyAnon wrote:

    @ michael

    Not even going to bother reading that garbage. Thanks for your insight.

    09 Aug 2011 9:34 AM

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  • Gutted for this country wrote:

    Whether they are white, black, old, young, male or female, if they can cause that much damage to their communitites and country, have little regard for peoples lives the idiots (and thats putting it nicely) should be lined up and shot.

    Daily Mail has a picture of a woman jumping from her burning flat because these yobs get off on violence and causing havoc. She has lost everything as have many other people!

    Makes me sick.....

    09 Aug 2011 9:34 AM

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  • michael wrote:

    before everyone talks about blacks and send them home how bad is it ireland how many blacks are there when we had poll tax riots was that black generated now but everyone was happy to cause riots and trouble then. if you are talking about immigrants then forget about the off licences taxi drivers Indian restaurants doctors because white people can do it all lol. white people forget about football violence and alcohol abuse that leads to fights and wife abuse when white people go on holiday who is showing the country up at kavos boozed up Britain abroad i think the term is and while we on the subject of black and white Raul Moat i am sure people have not forgot him killed 20 people dead then the taxi man that went on a rampage killing innocent people white who does all the mad rapes of old people and kidnapping kids white name 2 black people who are guilty of killing little kids or old people i will wait for your answers for every1 black person u name i will name 10 white so stop putting it down to colour. if a blackman is shot in a black area what the hell do u think is going to happen muppets. notice nothig has come out about the police shooting apart from it is now known to be a police bullet that was lodged in police walkie talkie hmmmmmmmmmmm

    09 Aug 2011 9:30 AM

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  • G Reasy wrote:

    @ Steve

    For god's sake stop banging on - you're getting boring.

    09 Aug 2011 9:26 AM

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  • witheld wrote:

    If this is the world today, what will nit be like in 50 years. Im glad i wont be alive then to see it.

    09 Aug 2011 9:24 AM

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  • steve wrote:

    @luke

    did i go to school i went to boarding school for 2 yrs and then grammar school so im not uneducated my daughter is taking a degree at bristol uni..i have worked all my life to bring up a family i used to do 72 hrs a week at a tesco distributon centre i have only been out of work since feb when i was hit by another car.
    this is the 1st time ive ever claimed benefits in my life.
    i used to work at morrisons also in sittingbourne but gave it up cos i refuse to be in the 20% minority.
    most of the eastern europeans ive met cant go back to poland because they are wanted for crimes over there like drug dealing rapists and other major crimes..
    i was also in charge of kurds and afghans in a warehouse and all they did was fight each other in fact 1 kurd stabbed an afghan with scissors in the head and then he stabbed a pole with a screwdriver so some lovely people all coming over here

    09 Aug 2011 9:24 AM

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  • Nicole wrote:

    This was always going to happen. I am so ashamed to be British sometimes as a lot of other countries wouldn't put up with the violence. It's us hardworking tax payers who will be paying for the damage caused through increased insurance costs etc. etc. I am not racist at all, but feel totally sickened and very sad by what is going on!! :(

    09 Aug 2011 9:23 AM

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  • .... wrote:

    only a matter of time now till yobs will come together in Medway and do the same to us.

    09 Aug 2011 9:19 AM

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  • Poppy wrote:

    It is mainly youths, colour irrelevant, causing the problems. The reason, there is mo discipline in schools or at home. The 'PC' brigade over the years have made us scared of disciplining our youth. There is no deterrent for any action taken. The youth of today, my kids included, live in the must have now society. They do not want to wait or work for anything. Until such time as discipline and RESPECT is brought back this will continue. Nothing will happen to the people arrested as they have too many rights. God help us all for the future if we dont sort the youth of today out now!

    09 Aug 2011 9:17 AM

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  • Edward Smith wrote:

    @ NORSEWIND - YES! Agree Agree Agree!

    09 Aug 2011 9:15 AM

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  • Luke wrote:

    @Steve,

    Did you even go to school? Your answers are very uneducated.

    If you knew anything about the European Union you would realise people are free to move about it as they wish, and in many cases seek free public health care. If we were to live in Poland im sure their government would give us free healthcare. You even hear of a lot of people that go abroad these days to use foreign hospitals because of the UK's long waiting times (separate issue i know, but still valid).

    Why is it of any concern to you how they live? If they want to live 100 to a house i dont care, as long as it was hygienic and not effecting anyone else.

    Im not sure if you are aware of how earning a wage works, but when you work they pay taxes just like everyone else. Why is it of any concern to you what they spend their money on? Who cares if they go to bluewater to buy a jumper, or if they send it home. The government wont neccessarily make any more money from taxes as they were already taken when they were paid.

    09 Aug 2011 9:12 AM

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  • Norsewind wrote:

    Those that raise the racist card are part of that over zealous PC Brigade that for years have taken the discipline away from our schools and home life, these "kids" are on the rampage and they know that even if they get caught they will more than likely get off with caution or just given a slap on their wrists..they know that they wont get prison ..perhaps if they attacked some one with a shaving foam pie they will get loads of prison time. .. the looneys are now running the asylum

    09 Aug 2011 9:11 AM

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  • Luke wrote:

    Each to their own opinion, but i disagree a little.

    I agree the majority are from the black communities as stated earlier by someone.

    There are big problems with immigration and that is the government is too easy on people, so a lot of people come to the uk to get free hand outs and never go to work, and sit around doing nothing all day because life is already better than back in their motherland. And its easier to sit on their backside, earn a little money and not do a proper days work. The government should give out handouts at the start i think to get genuine asylum cases settled (if not asylum then they should not get any handouts and should have enough to move to the uk to set up on their own and work i.e. such as other western countries promote such as Australia and USA). The government needs to say they have 3 or 6 months of claiming benefits, and then after that it stops, and they need to get into work and provide to the country that has given them shelter. This is where a lot of trouble stems from, a lot of resentment towards immigrants taking taking taking and not giving back, and it is something i feel the government really needs to sort out to stop high unemployment and large payouts each months in benefits. In that respect Edward i do believe the country is overrun, but i wouldnt agree that the country is overrun in general with immigrants. Ultimately we are just a piece of land like every where else so everyone is entitled to share, as long as they put back into the area they are living.

    09 Aug 2011 9:05 AM

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  • steve wrote:

    the immigrants are willing 2 work and they do work hard but how many of them have mortgages none they share 6 or more to a house and have menial outgoings the rest is sent to their bank accounts in eastern europe.and why should i pay taxes to give their kids child benefit we even pay 4 their kids that are still in eastern europe.this country is a joke a complete shambles..why do i have to pay 4 hospital treatment in their countries but they get it free here

    09 Aug 2011 9:04 AM

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  • Edward Smith wrote:

    @ Emma Royd - Someone expressing a concern about immigration levels does not make them a racist.

    It is people like you that are forcing people into silence as the fear of speaking out about PROBLEMS will make them a "racist"

    09 Aug 2011 9:03 AM

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  • Shocked wrote:

    I am shocked at this. Well I say shocked, I am not suprised at this at all after the shocking cuts and the state the country is in after another round of conservative spending cuts leading to job cuts. Its strange Roits and looting mainly only happen under the Conservatives! oh and if you know any of the people involved with this then please report them to the police.

    09 Aug 2011 9:03 AM

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  • agreed wrote:

    @ Luke

    Here Here!

    I hope all this prompts the government to give back the police the powers they once had....they may have shot a man but why was he shot? they obviously had reason - they are not like this numb minded bunch of idiots that cause unrest for no reason. I am never likely to be shot by the police because I do not put myself in the position to get shot, ie I dont go around carrying any sort of gun be it imitation or real!

    No one is scared of the police anymore and that is why they were left powerless and that is why these yobs thought they could do what they have done. Once upon a time you wouldnt have messed with the police. Now you see all sorts of people disrespecting them and abusing them, whereas in the past the slightest bit of disrespect and they would have been arrested and properly punished. Not get away scot free!

    I hope something is sorted and fast, From the low life waste of society that have done this to the giving back the powers to the police.

    09 Aug 2011 9:03 AM

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  • SW wrote:

    @ Luke

    You're spot on.

    09 Aug 2011 9:00 AM

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  • Luke wrote:

    @Steve,

    Like MARK said, i think you are after a cushty job, or one you are familiar with such as warehousing i suspect. Whats wrong with applying for retail etc, if not permanently, at least for the interim until you find your ideal warehousing job.

    09 Aug 2011 8:57 AM

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  • Name Witheld wrote:

    @ Luke

    So when they are white they are too lazy to get work but if they are black they are uneducated.
    Make up your mind. Is it laziness or education or are you racist against whites?

    09 Aug 2011 8:57 AM

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  • Emma Royd wrote:

    @ Worried, you are just a lazy idiot of a racist who should get off their backside and do some work

    @ Steve, you too are just a pure and simple racist

    09 Aug 2011 8:54 AM

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  • Mark wrote:

    @Luke - Well said

    @Worried - when you finished education did you walk into a job? We've had large scale immigration into this country for 50+ years and we've had plenty of economic ups and downs during that time too. The only difference today is kids leaving school are more tuned to getting exactly what they want, so they're not prepared to look for anything other than the (usually) cushty job they want. There are plenty if jobs out there - thank god the immigrants aren't as lazy or fussy, otherwise we'd have to pay a hell of a lot more for our shopping. And no doubt the government (whoever was in) would get the blame for that too!

    09 Aug 2011 8:53 AM

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  • Proper Policing wrote:

    Until the police are given powers to protect rather than risk being arrested for assault it will only get worse. Suspend the human rights act and let the criminals be dealt with.

    I don't think immigration is the problem, but our immigration policy of letting everyone in that is. But no-one will do anything for fear of being branded racist.

    09 Aug 2011 8:53 AM

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  • steve wrote:

    luke im 48 and have worked all my life and damned hard.i was hit in sittingbourne by a prat 18 yr old who has no licence no insurance he put 5 people in hospital including myself and my girlfriend who got 2 fractures of the neck and she has never not worked but i had 2 give up my job due to 3 discs being damaged in the crash.i was also in the army and went to northern ireland how many of theses immigrants would fight 4 this country in a war? NONE oh and i apply 4 jobs daily

    09 Aug 2011 8:50 AM

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  • Mick wrote:

    Thanks to our GUTLESS politicians --do-goodies --lack of discipline--lack of support for our police we now have anarchy. These thieves should be jailed for at least 5 years. They should be fast tracked through the courts and not given bail.

    09 Aug 2011 8:49 AM

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  • Luke wrote:

    @Name Withheld,

    Its narrow minded responses like yours that get this country no where.

    @Steve,

    Im sorry for your daughter not being able to get a job, but its probably not because of all the so called "immigrants", its more likely to do with the lack of jobs because of the global economic situation and the high quantity of graduates coming out of college.... I for one have just been through the same situation. To blame this problem on immigration is just an uneducated answer. Stop being so quick to blame immigrants and see the positives it brings to the country too!

    09 Aug 2011 8:48 AM

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  • Edward Smith wrote:

    Northern Ireland, water canons and rubber bullets, no one bats an eyelid.

    Its about time we went in heavy handed & smash the trouble makers off the street, respond accordingly and teach them a lesson of respect.

    When we get the police complaints afterwards the government response should be simple, you shouldnt have been there you got what you deserved.

    Respond with the full force of the police / army / law or risk letting the rioters win and our country become an even weaker and pathetic nation who roll over to these thugs.

    09 Aug 2011 8:48 AM

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  • Name Witheld wrote:

    @ Luke.

    Get you head out of your backside.

    09 Aug 2011 8:44 AM

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  • Worried wrote:

    @Steve

    Your right mate. It's gone too far. Terrible decision to let them all in. My daughter has just done 4 years at college and can't get a job.

    09 Aug 2011 8:42 AM

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  • Luke wrote:

    Steve, immigration is a great thing to have in our country, it increases awareness of different cultures and religions around the world... something the youth today very much need to see considering they are all dropping out of school these days for a life of violence and sponging off the government.
    Don't date blame immigrants for your laziness to not get off your own backside. That is the problem with people today, they want everything for nothing. Maybe if you didn't drop out of school you would have had better qualifications to get a better paid and more interesting job. I see nothing wrong with people taking your job if you are not prepared to take it. Im all the more for it if they are keeping the economy running, at least they are doing something over here and paying back into society rather than sponging off it and blaming the government like you are. If you cant get a job as a warehouseman then why not get another job doing something else in the mean time. There are plenty of fast food chains, supermarkets etc, retail that are hiring... there really is no excuse for the unskilled not to have a job. I hate how everyone blames it on the government. The sooner the gov. gets tougher on the people sponging off the state for no valid reason the better. When they run out of money and cant feed themselves then im sure they will be willing to take any job, no matter how menial it is.

    Get off your backside and do something positive for a change instead of moaning about an inept government!

    Its people like you who raise these sorts of kids into what they are today... just a load of uneducated youth running around causing violence with only regards to themselves... and then they will probably have the cheek to turn around and moan about what state the country is in, and why the gov. doesnt do anything about it, when it was they themselves that have caused it.

    I really hate the way the country is going at the moment, and i really hope the government does something soon or later to get tough on this sort of irresponsible and dangerous behaviour.

    On a final note, i hope Medway does not suffer as bad as London and i feel for everyone effected by these mindless riots, and i hope all the emergency services involved in the riots stay safe.

    09 Aug 2011 8:41 AM

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  • mandy wrote:

    @ Rachel
    Its all well and good waiting for our army to come and sort it out but I am sorry to say most of the poor souls are over seas fighting other countries battles mean time our country falss apart due to mindless violence . . . .makes you feel proud to be British NOT

    09 Aug 2011 8:38 AM

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  • david wrote:

    Lock the barstards up. Never let them out.

    09 Aug 2011 8:36 AM

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  • rachael wrote:

    im sorry but this wouldnt have happened if they got the army out in full force to put a stop to it in london

    09 Aug 2011 8:31 AM

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  • T-Jay wrote:

    We need BOOT CAMPS our prisons are over filled with criminals but im sure there are lots of retired Army officers who would love to take on the challenge of these unruly yongsters and tame a few of them....

    09 Aug 2011 8:31 AM

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  • steve wrote:

    the country is in chaos i have seen this coming for some time now due to tensions building with unemployment and low wages for jobs that are on offer.this is due to the millions of eastern europeans taking over my country.i cant get a job now in warehousing because of all the young eastern europeans.they should all be sent back home and give jobs to the british.mr cameron get your act together please and listen to your people.

    09 Aug 2011 8:30 AM

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  • ron wrote:

    sorry there is no way they could have travelled by train to medway as we all know that southeasten trains are s h i t

    09 Aug 2011 8:27 AM

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  • Stafford owner wrote:

    Shoot em.

    09 Aug 2011 8:22 AM

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