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Thursday, May 24 2012

Councillor calls for spitting ban

Cllr Chris Irvine wants to ban spitting

by Dan Bloom

Spitting in public should be banned, according to a Medway politician.

Cllr Chris Irvine, a Conservative ward councillor, spoke out after Enfield Council in London moved to fine spitters £80 each.

The by-law will be the first in Britain for 22 years if it is approved by local government secretary Eric Pickles.

Cllr Irvine said: “We’re looking at what Enfield are doing very closely. I’m not generally a fan of gesture politics but I would like to do all we can to discourage this vile habit.”

Enfield Council is Labour-controlled, but Medway Labour spokesman Cllr Tristan Osborne hit out at the idea.

The former special constable said: “Spitting is anti-social and it’s a good idea to ban it, but it would be unenforceable. Also, if you spit at someone it is already a criminal offence.”

Cllr Irvine (pictured below) disagreed, adding: “We already fine people for littering, throwing down cigarette butts and leaving dog mess. Children fall over in the street and do we really want them getting spit on their clothes?”

Cllr Chris IrvineHe admitted: “A fine may not be the best way. Perhaps if we introduced a community penalty, for example making people clean up their mess themselves.”

A spitting ban after the First World War prevented the spread of TB, and carried a fine of £5 before it was dropped in 1990. Yet there are now about 80,000 drug-resistant cases a year across Europe.

Medway Citizens Advice Bureau chief executive Dan McDonald is also backing a ban after he started a debate on Twitter.

He said: “I think I’m starting to be a fan. I believe we’re in a free society but speaking to people it seems residents would like the chance to speak to the council.”

Yet Liberal Democrat group leader Cllr Geoff Juby said: “It’s not straightforward – you’ll find there are people with lung conditions who can’t help it. I wouldn’t spend a lot of money on it.”

Independent member Cllr Andy Stamp added: “What will happen next? Will we be telling people to close their mouths while they eat?”

What do you think? Would like to see people who spit given fines? Join the debate below.

 

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  • Donna wrote:

    To RT "Some people need to cough. So where do they spit their phlegm? Are we now to victimise them or provide spittoons?"

    Why can't they spit into a tissue, take it home with them and flush it down the toilet?

    TB is on the increase - even the treatment for it is not pleasant; we need to stop the spread of it and prevention is better than cure in this case, definitely!

    20 Feb 2012 1:35 PM

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  • RT wrote:

    Spitting, horrible though it may be, can hardly be as gross as dog fouling. At least spit evaporates!

    Some people need to cough. So where do they spit their phlegm? Are we now to victimise them or provide spittoons?

    Think of taxpayers' money wasted in this debate of a new dead-letter law when the council doesn't even take dog fouling seriously?

    When was the last time the this council actually prosecuted a dog fouler? Need I say more?

    18 Feb 2012 11:56 AM

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  • Ex Old Bill wrote:

    It's all very well bringing in by-laws that fine offenders £80 for spitting in the street, dropping litter,not picking up dog mess
    , riding a bike on the pavement so on and so on. However with all the public spending cuts we have less police less PCSOs Dog wardens to enforce the law. Look around you and see how crime is rising. Is this what Cameron means when he says 'we are all in this together'.

    17 Feb 2012 7:18 PM

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  • Shamlay wrote:

    Spitting in public is a disgusting habit. I was walking into Ashford station the other morning just some youth spat the contents of his nasal passages onto the pavement near my feet! I would have said something but these days someone like that is just as likely to turn round and punch you. This vile behaviour turns my stomach

    17 Feb 2012 12:52 PM

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  • katekensington wrote:

    Community service, why should the unemployed be allowed to run riot, I am unemployed but very willing to work for the community. The spitting is from the lower classes and those are the ones that are unemployed. I do not think fining will help, as when they do not pay they will take up court time, harsher measures are needed, or CONSCRIPTION.

    17 Feb 2012 12:30 PM

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  • COAST wrote:

    100% behind a law to fine those that spit in public it is a filthy vile unsocial behaviour but also should include community service cleaning up there filth. It is noticable in recent years with immigration and of course the spread of TB which was erradicated a few years ago. So lets support the councillor

    17 Feb 2012 10:38 AM

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  • Robster wrote:

    100% agree, spitting is horrible and unneccessary.
    Stop people from spitting publicly and on the football pitches (TV).
    The crets that do it are only parotting their team idols.

    17 Feb 2012 6:33 AM

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