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Thursday, May 24 2012

Hythe woman convicted of seducing girl with horny ghost

Canterbury Crown Court

by Paul Hooper

A woman has been found guilty of seducing a "vulnerable" young girl using letters from a horny ghost called "Steve".

Elizabeth Carolan, 59, created a fantasy world in a bizarre plot to have sex with the youngster.

Carolan - known as Liz - of Dymchurch Road, Hythe, had denied four sex assault charges, but was convicted by a jury this afternoon.

The judge said the case was "bizarre" and ordered a psychiatric report before sentencing her. She was remanded on bail.

Charlotte Newell, prosecuting, told how some of the attacks happened at a holiday camp and a swimming pool.

She said Carolan sent more than 170 letters to the girl - who is now 18 - from ficticious people.

Ms Newell told the jury at Canterbury Crown Court: "The girl needed love and support. This defendant knew that and knew that she was vulnerable and was an easy target.

"Instead of mollycoddling - showing her love and support - she undid this girl's bra.

"She had a sexual interest in this girl and manipulated her as was easy to do."

It was then that Carolan started to bombard her victim with fake letters.

The prosecutor added: "She had a rather twisted and strange view of the world, encouraging an apparent correspondence with a number of males that she (the victim) had never met and which (the victim) now believes was simply invented by Liz.

"At the time she believed a whole cast of characters were writing to her and creating a fantasy world. The purpose of which was to ensure she never sought a real-life boyfriend who might take her away from this situation."

"She had a sexual interest in this girl and manipulated her as it was easy to do…” – Charlotte Newell, prosecuting

The prosecutor said: "Liz created a fantasy family for this girl, letters from many characters including Tony and Rob..and a ghost call Steve.

"None of these people ever materialised..never seen in person. We say they never did exist."

Ms Newell added: "Steve was the ghost - an invention of course - but an invention who wrote letters of his own but also passed information.

"This was, the Crown say, a device to explain how the apparent author of one of the letters, who was allegedly in a hospital after having his arm blown off in Afghanistan, might know of a row with Liz that day.

"So how would they know about the row? Well the answer is that a ghost is watching them. So Steve was a device to explain how they would know those things.

"Even letters from the ghost managed to have a sexual angle, with one saying: "Don't stop the love games. Me love it'," she claimed.

Another letter, purporting to be from "Rob" - who was supposed to be a "boyfriend admirer type of figure", read: "Don't show your body to anyone, (just) to me, Steve, and Andy and Liz."

The prosecutor added: "One can only imagine the effect that these letters... one after the other... pages upon pages, had on this adolescent young girl, making it difficult for her to exercise judgment or free will."

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  • bluetooth82 wrote:

    i am deeply shocked to hear that liz has been sent to prison this is what she gets for being a good friend.i have known liz for 30 years and know that she as never done this to any child.i have seen them both a couple of times out and about.incluldin the bustop in hythe happy
    liz was always there for her and for lizs family the grand children adore her
    liz has a kind nature done everything for every one. but dont understand why this has happened to her as i said im shocked i hope her family are well and getting on from this as they have to live without a grand mother and a mother she will be missed as the friends she has is still surporting liz

    30 Apr 2012 11:44 AM

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  • tinkerbell wrote:

    rubberduck how can i be her mother that would have made me at least one years old when she was born . how can you help someone who wouldn't tell anyone she is being abused. well you can't simple well when she comes out she wont be allowed near any children as she would have been put on the register.
    so end of it has been sorted she got put to prsion now let everyone forget this horrible thing that has happend . lets protect other children

    29 Apr 2012 8:25 PM

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  • rubber duck wrote:

    i have been looking at all the comments people have been writing on here and yes i agree every person has there own opinion on this matter yes i agree everything is wrong what has gone on tinkerbell may i ask why u wasnt there as the mother figure for the victim like lizzy was notebook i agree with you it has shocked all of us what has happened i never believed this could happen as lizzy was always good with the children always doing school runs etc etc and as for your information tinkerbell lizzy does have a lot of friends and for everybodys information my children were always round her and nothing like this as ever happened

    29 Apr 2012 12:31 PM

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  • notebook85 wrote:

    i can handle what you have to say..i think i have a right to comment like all the others you may know them both well and proberbly know more than i do i dont care who knows who more. i just think its sad how a friendship as turned so sour after liz was the only one i know off who was there for her.theres always two sides to every story people will judge etc im not here to judge any one how can me or others on here keep our noses out when liz is not here to stand up for her self???

    28 Apr 2012 9:58 PM

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  • Tinkerbell wrote:

    Yes I do know liz very well thanks but I also no the victim very well so don't tell me I can't judge when you don't even know e whole truth unlike me so just keep your nose out of it . U should be ashamed backing a pervert up like that . Can't handle what I say the tough I am an honest person .yeah she got too friendly with her victim oh I have more rights to have a say then you do . Do you even know what happen erm no so there we go

    28 Apr 2012 9:27 PM

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  • notebook85 wrote:

    i know liz took and picked her grand grand children up and being at the bustop in hythe she is not the sort of person to blank anyone who wants to chat to her.liz has more friends than enimies who has knowen liz for years...who cant belive this has happened i dont know where you get your facts from?? it makes me laugh when people judge liz when really you proberbly dont even know liz but you every right to have your say on this!!

    28 Apr 2012 9:15 PM

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  • tinkerbell wrote:

    the comment about her being pregnant is to blade

    28 Apr 2012 7:25 PM

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  • tinkerbell wrote:

    oh please notebook85 she dont have no friends the ones like you that are standing by her make me sick cause it means you support and allow her to do anything to children you should be ashamed . how many people have said she chats the girls that come of the bus from hythe you just think about this . what if this was your child? god forbid anything like this happens to any other child and it has nothing to do with you or anyone else about the victim falling pregnant that has NOTHING and i mean NOTHING to do with you or anyone else so grow up . liz has gone to prison where she belongs

    28 Apr 2012 7:23 PM

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  • notebook85 wrote:

    all this is sad. some people may not agree on why elizabeth has gone to prison.as she is well known in hythe..
    i just hope her friends and family who still surports elizabeth at this sad time because its not taken away a grandmother mother but a good friend as well.i hope elizabeths friends and family can move on from this in time

    27 Apr 2012 11:41 PM

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  • tinkerbell wrote:

    notebook85 please how sad is that LIZ that thing thats ment to be human does not give too hoots about her family if she did then she would not have done this too her so you can stick up for her all you like so at the end of the day she got what she deserves . prison is the best place for her now this girl has some how got to cope with all of that liz did to her so no one will miss her knowing what that thing has done to a young girl i don't care if no one likes what i say cause i am only telling the truth

    27 Apr 2012 2:45 PM

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  • blade wrote:

    why u all have ur own out look on this as i have heard that the girl in question is pregnant as normally if u were abused u would normally find it hard with life and not jump straight in to it plus yes if liz was guilty then she needs to serve her time but in life people can make things up and being a younger child u will get heard was it she was calling out for help who no,s but all we can do is hope it never happens to one of us

    26 Apr 2012 4:44 PM

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  • kevin wrote:

    This woman is a Peadophile. She started abuseing the girl victim when she was 14! She deserves the sentence and more. Anyone who thinks what she did was not wrong is the same as her. It's as simple as that! Any pity on her is condoning what she did and brings the question up, how many like her are there locally??

    26 Apr 2012 11:24 AM

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  • notebook85 wrote:

    just reading all your comments and you have every right to your vieiws?
    but its this lady youjudge?? my heart gose out to her family and friends who will miss her while this lady is in prison


    25 Apr 2012 11:18 PM

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  • marmite 64 wrote:

    my thoughts are with the young victim she has to live this every day of her life and her family have to live it to liz was asked to help this was not help

    25 Apr 2012 7:07 PM

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  • marmite 64 wrote:

    hi am really sorry women for hythe but please read this again she admitted it as she wrote all the letters which are sick and twisted and there is no way a group of 12 people plus a judge got this wrong is there if you are a friend you now she hangs around with young children all the time . sorry but this is the truth and there is nothing you can say she was found guilty and she is were she should be

    25 Apr 2012 7:05 PM

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  • hythe lady wrote:

    what a sad thing 2 happen , the lady was just being a good mate to her and she made more of it. ive know this lady most of my life .there no way this would of happend ,my thought are with her famliy

    20 Apr 2012 8:08 AM

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  • kevin wrote:

    Bought the paper this morning.Good to see it on front page. I hope this doesn't upset the victim and at best hope it maybe will give her some closure on this terrible part of her life.
    A six year sentence will in effect be three.
    Quote from HM Prison Service document..... "Prisoners serving a term of 4 years or more are eligible for discretionary release on a licence to be supervised by the Probation Service at any time after they have served half their sentence (PED - parole eligibility date)".
    So at least 3 years for her! May each day be a bad one.
    Three years is not a long time and people will still remember this and God forbid if any suspect behaviour was seen most would report it.
    I still hope Kent Online will post details of the sentencing as the more people that know the truth about this excuse for a human being the better.

    19 Apr 2012 12:17 PM

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  • marmite 64 wrote:

    she is in the km paper page 7 of folkestone's but front page in romney marsh one please all read and make shore it is shown to other people please dont let this happen to another child

    19 Apr 2012 7:00 AM

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  • Tinkerbell wrote:

    Kevin I agree I think they should have named and shamed her even more but they won't makes me sick She will get let out and do it again cause that the sort of sick person she really is . I would make people like that do there full sentence why give them the option of getting out early . But then again prison is more like a holiday camp for them .

    19 Apr 2012 12:18 AM

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  • kevin wrote:

    So she has been sentenced? Don't think you have this right! 13 years...more like 13 months!!! Shame Kent online have not followed this story to the end and reported the final sentence!

    18 Apr 2012 3:13 PM

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  • marmite 64 wrote:

    well yesterday this women was given a 13 yrs plus 28 days sentence for what she did and is on a list so she got what she deserved but she will only do 3 yrs what is with the justice in this world

    14 Apr 2012 6:13 PM

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  • Kevin wrote:

    Lets hope the victim is supported.This excuse for a human being abused a vunerable child and I hope the sentence reflects the serious nature of the crime.

    02 Mar 2012 11:16 AM

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  • marmite 64 wrote:

    i know the girl very well and i believe everything she says is the truth she would never lie about this . and liz needs to be locked up for life for recking the young girls life . and other people like liz need be locked up as well

    11 Feb 2012 9:26 PM

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  • Bag Puss wrote:

    Wobble are you insane? If not go do your trolling someplace else.
    I can't believe a person would come online and attempt to justify the actions of a child abuser by saying the victim is now 18yrs old. It doesn't matter if the victim is 18yrs old, or 65yrs old, she was a child when the abuse happened, and do you count many sex offenders amoungst your friends?
    What I want to know, and many of the neighbours and local people in the area, is why the Judge saw fit to release this woman who has abused a child on Bail, back into the community where the victim lives and the abuse happened, thus allowing Liz to get her daily kicks of chatting up young teenage girls that are waiting for their school buses. And please, dont try and tell me she does not, she is always hanging around by the dentist wall or the bus shelter chatting with the young local girls. Obviously Wobble doesn't live in the area, or have young teenage girls waiting for school buses or they would be as concerned as every other parent in the local area.

    10 Feb 2012 11:52 PM

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  • tinkerbell wrote:

    at the end of the day i know both the victim and liz at the end of the day what liz had done to the victim is what i would call horrendous and outrageous . and the victim was a CHILD at the time of this !!!!

    10 Feb 2012 7:13 PM

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  • wobble wrote:

    hi i know both people concerned in this matter i do believe the letters are sick but wrote by both involved i was at the hearing so can see this at a different angle than most as i have known liz for over 25 years and the girl involved 4 years and please don,t think this is a youngster as the victim is 18 years old now not a child as both used to come to my house together i do feel sorry for liz as at the hearing the judge did say there was no actual evidence of this other than letters all i am asking could we please leave both to get on with what has happened as i do also feel for the girl involved thanks

    10 Feb 2012 11:07 AM

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  • tinkerbell wrote:

    hello has everyone forgotton that there is a victim in this and that this anit a joke so please take her feelings into consideration . at the end of the day its not important the title and that what is important is that victim is ok and that they are going to give her the support she needs .

    09 Feb 2012 7:20 PM

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  • medway wrote:

    'horny' - is this the Daily Star now?

    09 Feb 2012 6:07 PM

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  • lionel wrote:

    Rather tacky headline!

    09 Feb 2012 3:27 PM

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  • marmite 64 wrote:

    hi i now this person and it has affected her badly please think off her felling before you write this sort off thing ( where did the ghost by the stamps for the letters )

    09 Feb 2012 3:08 PM

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  • seekeroftruthandjustice wrote:

    Seriously f**king wierd story.

    Where did the ghost by the stamps for the letters?

    The Ghost Office...

    Seriously though hope the victim is getting some decent support, how will she ever trust anyone again?

    09 Feb 2012 1:50 PM

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