Gillingham 1 Southend United 2

williams wrote:

Old Basing Gills 1954

dreadfull, dreadfull, sorry
guys and gals, my prediction
in September that we will be
fortunate to finnish 18th.
is not to wide of the mark,
thats with a new manager that
knows what he doing!!
It appears he has lost the
changing room and himself.
So Mr. Scally bite the bullet
like it or not and install a
new manager while still time
to stop us falling thro. the
the trap door& joining Grimsby
(how long have they been there)
and before the damage becomes
to great to mend.

14 Feb 2012 10:21 PM

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gillsinexile wrote:

Oh dear what a shambles ,I wish the manager all the success in the world but I do not see it happening ,the players he has assembled are his team now and they looked far from good eneough ,Gary Richards is playing above his average and everything bad comes from him,he is not a central defender and he is chief instigator of hoofball going forward and that was a major problem last night they looked like a pub side and were lucky that Southend were a below average side themselves a half decent side would have thrashed the rubbish I saw parading in G.f.c. shirts last night . The buck does stop with the manager and when I see him shaking his head from side to side everytime the cameras were on him I feel the game is up ,both he and his team looked as bad as they were under Mark Stimpson ,the only difference here being it was impossible to like Mr Stimpson. That said ,sentiment has no place in football and Hess needs to get over his and drop some players and make the changes that might save his neck before public support runs out for the man we want to take this club back up the leagues. I am only glad is was not amongst the 4441 poor souls that were there and I am not surprised that they only made some noise in the last 10 minutes.There is no devine right to anything in football but it is gauling to see some of the sides above the Gills on smaller budgets and smaller crods I.E Torquay. come on Hess sort it out !!!

14 Feb 2012 9:07 PM

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jlo wrote:

sorry.....mandem - but maybe I got it right 1st time ;)

14 Feb 2012 3:56 PM

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jlo wrote:

Medwaymadman - you should have been there - you would have been even more depressed!! At least you were in the warm :)

14 Feb 2012 3:55 PM

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MedwayMandem wrote:

Hessy, you need to realise that the caveman (Matt Lawrence) is probably the worst player on the team.


STOP PLAYING THESE OLD, USELESS, TALENTLESS GEEZERS.

Get a few of the younger players in to fill the gaps.

Watching the match on the television last night depressed me.

Gills you need to sort it out before we end up like Grimsby.


ANGRY FAN!

14 Feb 2012 2:18 PM

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medwaymoaner wrote:

was i suffering a different game to some of these posters???

yes, sadly lawrence wasnt at the races first half but what support did he get from in front of him? i dont think ive ever seen a gills back line win so few headers in a game.

but until danny jackman remembered he was playing left side, was martin any worse than lawrence. they were both exploited by the angle ball over their heads too many times in the first half and those balls led to both goals.

montrose should disappear (to montrose preferably) as he continues to flatter to deceive! i felt for weston who came more into the game once payne came on, but then again i couldn't figure where the hell payne was playing most ofthe time. he spent most of his time in the centre circle and surely he's better than that...

i agree tomlin scored a hell of a goal, but be honest what else did he contribute? kaffour ran around a lot without a lot of joy and as for danny kedwell - give me a team of 11 kedwell's and we wouldnt now be desperately playing play off catch up. ok he may not be fully fit, but if everyone gave as much effort and endeavour as danny did, it would have been southend going home last night to "kick the cat"!!!

14 Feb 2012 1:12 PM

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nilnildraw wrote:

Agree with everything posted so far. I should think everybody was dismayed when they saw the team selection last night and if it is so obvious to us why on earth can't the manager see it? Now he is looking at another hasbeen who has been written off by his club - this policy has got us where we are now, nowhere! With a non existent defence to play 3 up front is stupid and a basic mistake that should not be made at this level. Two banks of 4 is what's needed but the manager is too weak to leave out players for fear of upsetting them. First time I've ever said it but sorry Hess TIME FOR YOU TO GO along with Lawrence, Frampton, Martin,Fish,Montrose, Oli and perhaps Weston who has had enough chances but never delivers consistently. UTG

14 Feb 2012 12:29 PM

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Bomber wrote:

Hess has promised changes over the last 3 matches, but we had to wait until half time last night before they happened.
Evans looked a good prospect and on last nights showing, deserves a start ahead of the too slow Lawrence.
Gazzaniga played well and deserved better, if he had a defence in front of him.
Essam's introduction did not weaken the team, and he also has more pace than Frampton.
If Hess wants to improve the team's performances, he needs to discard the older team members and give youths it chance.
Jack Payne's performance was again immaculate, and on;ly Jackman, of the old guard showed any enterprise. The forwards were too isolated to have any great effect on the game, and need the ball on the ground!!

14 Feb 2012 11:15 AM

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g.i.blues wrote:

agree with every ounce of what you say there clive loves gills, changes needed to happen way before now...but we are still talking this subject off it's hind legs.
i'd be just as inclined to give callum davies a run in the team as well as essam and evans, what do we have to lose on that showing lastnight...not a single thing thats what!
yes felt so sorry for gazza out there amongst that so called experienced pro backline of ours, much more of that and he will end up the wrong end of where he wants to be in his career...that won't give him the confidence he wise's for!

we now need to build a gills team for the future from the back, without lawrence, richards, frampton and sorry to say martin who is just as uncomfortable as the rest...just a shame it was frampton who got the injury lastnight and not richards, all the set pieces & corners were aimed towards richards, the guy is useless and so far off the mark when it comes to being a leader and targetman when we need inspiration on that field at either end of the pitch!

2-0 goals down and all we can do is keep passing it along the backline and then when it goes into midfield it's straight back to a defender again, who when he's runout of ideas punts it forward for southend to gain control again...they were just clueless and god knows what they go through with our so called manager on that training ground or in the changing room, because i see nothing to incourage our belief that we are about to turn the corner anytime soon with what we see.
that was like watching us back in the early 90's lastnight and lately...pitiful!!!

hess offers us nothing on the bench to lift the team when it's needed...that was obvious for all to see, as doesn't his shadow, who gets a wage for what exactly???

like you say clive, montrose offers nothing whatsoever and should be dropped now, whelpdale with what we know he can do...even though limited of late...would of been a better bet, one bit of his magic is worth the whole of montroses time out there...and more!
we did seem to bypass the midfield though, which was obvious to all eyes!!!

we missed out on a player to build our defence around in matt fry, yet hess decides to give a trial to jon fortune who is 31 and injury prone as much as king and frampton are...hess you are clueless on so much it's painful to watch as a supporter and can't do anything but watch us fail to go up yet again from this hole of a division...and no player with any hopes will be with us next season i.e. kuffour, tomlin, lee, whelpdale, payne and jackman...back to the drawing board and yes with a clueless manager and staff to achive those dreams the fans want and need...or not as we know it will be!!!

14 Feb 2012 9:19 AM

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ayling8911 wrote:

Why oh why is frampton still in the side let along captain ??

he is toilet, pure toilet, he isn't a leader, when the tough gets going he fakes an injury and limps off, the guy is a liability.

As for the rest of the defence, richards has been abysmal lately, as has lawro, martin is in decline, doesn'w want to move up the field when he has it, gazzanigga was the only bright spot last night.

Why have we rejected the chance to sign matt fry ? chris riggott ? jon fortune ? good defenders, instead we keep faith in the useless ones we have and concede goal after goal. dont take them on trial if you have no interest in signing them.

As for the midfield, I haven't seen a player with such little ability in Lewis Montrose since Mick Galloway !! He is one of the worst signings of Hess' helm. He week after week plays like a clown, time to sit out and let a boy play.

if Keds isn't fit, dont play him, simple. You keep on raving hess about Ashley Miller and how he looks better than Jarvis did at his age, really ?? WELL PLAY HIM THEN.

I love Hessy to bits but I am very gradually losing patience with watching a long ball team with no confidence and no plan b. sort it out hess or you'll be back in non-league.

14 Feb 2012 9:10 AM

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hamstreetgills wrote:

I absolutly love Hess to bits for what he has done for the club and his attitude, but he was already released once for pretty much the same form and style of play we have today. What I cannot understand is why Hess and the players have this urge to pump the ball forward, especially against tall defences. When we play the ball on the ground and pass it around we look dangerous, and for one or two spells tonight we started to do that, then reverted back to the ineffective long ball again. The defence is a shambles, and I cannot understand why Hess, after all his words about needing to change things still insists on playing Matt Lawrence, and the others were not much better. One word on Gazza, I felt sorry for him tonight, he never put a foot wrong and was not at fault for any of the goals, he looked commanding and confident in his area and pulled off one good save, I would not be surprised to see him stay in the no 1 spot even when Flitney is fit. Come on Hess, be bold and brave and do something or you will be next on the management casualty heap. UTG.

14 Feb 2012 7:26 AM

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chestfield pete wrote:

Another pathetic first half performance with no shape,
purpose,idea of positioning
or sustained effort.
Southend made all of the running,won every ball in the air,in defence and attack and our defence was again seen as what it is - totally inadequate and clueless.
Second half was better with a lot more effort but by then all Southend had to do was soak it up and collect the three points.
The excuses have got to stop and positive action taken,we need a new manager who can organise the team in the right way and get coaches in who know how to motivate and get players playing for 95 plus minutes(Someone in the mould of Paolo de Canio or Gus Poyet will do).The defence looked better in the second half without Lawrence who is now a liability and Frampton was too slow everywhere and won very little on the ground or in the air,Montrose was still with the fairies and made no impact anywhere - Martin,Payne,jackman
and Tomlin were our star players with weston,Gazzaniga and Kuffour at least making an effort - but i'm sorry Danny Kedwell was so ineffective he should have gone off and maybe even Oli given a chance(Not sure if he was on the bench) or even played Whelpdale up front with Kuffour and Tomlin.
Another poor effort all round
especially in the first half and again the players should be fined for making such ineffective efforts.
As supporters we want our team to win every game but know this will never happen,however what we cannot take is the lack of commitment or enthusiasm being shown or ideas
in the first half or the desire to please us fans with some real skill.
Having said all of the above Gavin Tomlin's goal was a real cracker,shame it was only a consolation as it deserved to win a game.
Hope young Jack Evans,Connor Essam and Paulo Gazzaniga keep their places - they are the future and we now need to get rid of the deadwood and build for next year - we are going nowhere with this lot and are doomed for yet another year in this dustbin of a division but on this showing we donot deserve to get out - i am now dreading the Torquay and Rotherham games,they will slaughter us,unless we double our effort and start playing.
As per my other posts on my team i am totally committed as a fan but cannot accept this poor management and lack of effort any more - time for drastic changes all round and
hope for next year cos this year we are going nowhere.
UTG

14 Feb 2012 12:33 AM

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clive loves gills wrote:

as soon as i heard the team, with lawrence at right back in particular - the impending result was so predictable

how can a manager be so narrow minded and stubborn and refuse to make changes that to anyone else are quite simply necessary

i remember in the 1st division during his 1st stint as manager he was just as poor at nurturing our young talent

yet again, hessenthaler talks the talk, but cannot walk the walk - how many times has he said we lack pace at the back (something we knew yonks ago), only to stick with the same creaky defence

jack evans came on and gave a great account of himself, as did connor essam. felt sorry for the young keeper who will be a player one day, bags of potential

promotion is essential if we are to hang onto the likes of tomlin, kuffour, jackman and payne

as for montrose, does hess seriously rate him hihger than whelpdale as a central midfielder? the mind boggles

sadly, we will be stuck with the inept fool for some time yet - a great player for us, but he is just not a manager

14 Feb 2012 12:18 AM

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g.i.blues wrote:

what a shower of sh*t our defence are and changes need to happen right across the backline...fast!

clueless manager and staff.

plus the managers shadow does what exactly...get him out along with the rest!

13 Feb 2012 11:21 PM

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Cornishpete wrote:

TIME TO GO HESS.
ANOTHER RUBBISH PERFORMANCE.
CLUELESS UTTERLY CLUELESS.

13 Feb 2012 9:57 PM

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