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Saturday, February 04 2012

Video: The moment Medway's CCTV car is caught on camera

Video of CCTV operator who does not want to be filmed

Exclusive by Keyan Milanian

It is the moment the cameras were turned on Medway's controversial spy car.

A CCTV operator has been caught on video arguing with a member of the public for filming him at work.

One of Medway Council's parking wardens is shown getting hot under the collar at Bill Khan - and threatening to call the police.

The 34-year-old captured the Smart car from the pavement while it was patrolling Batchelor Street, just off Chatham High Street.

But, as our exclusive video shows, an unnamed warden gets out of the vehicle to confront Mr Khan, holding his clipboard up to the camera.

He is heard saying: "Do not take my photograph, you haven't got my permission to take my photograph."

Mr Khan responds: "But this is public."

The operator replies: "No, it's not, cause you are not allowed to take my photograph like I'm not allowed to take yours. Why are you doing this, you're harassing me."

He then says he is going to phone the police and can be seen dialling a number before Mr Khan wanders off.

Mr Khan, who sent his video to the Medway Messenger, said: "Is this how Medway Council train their employees? Not very good ambassadors for the council, are they?"

Medway Council said Mr Khan could not have been arrested for filming the warden, but declined to comment further.

Pick up a copy of Friday's Medway Messenger for a parking special report.

Wednesday, August 11 2010

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  • shane peek wrote:

    Hope the car is destroyed in the riots ., it would make my day!

    09 Aug 2011 9:32 PM

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  • Kavi wrote:

    The wardens are not at fault. They are simply doing their job. It is the council who are spying on people 24/7. People are living with fears about getting caught parking for 1 minute to a shop. This is a disgrace.

    04 Jul 2011 9:03 AM

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  • Steve Hufton wrote:

    As is mostly the case the CCTV car is causing as much (or as little) problem as the so called offending vehicle. Why don't these uniformed council and otherwise unemployable idiots catch litter dropping, spitting, and cars that are really causing a problem as opposed to the easy touch all the time?? Odd how the council always wish to cut front line services but never this do they????????

    27 May 2011 3:06 PM

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  • NoToMob wrote:

    Parking Adjudicators Report to the Joint Committee

    “Adjudicators have noticed that in some of the correspondence the council has claimed that the TMA provides an exemption from parking restrictions for a CCTV vehicle. This is not the case - there are no provisions in the TMA or any of its regulations that create exemptions to parking restrictions in TROs for vehicles engaged in camera enforcement.”

    22 Apr 2011 1:50 AM

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  • Steve Hufton wrote:

    Next time some idiot comes looking for your votes tell them where to go. This has nothing to do with traffic flow etc and all to do with money. Besides, this council employed uniformed fool is in a public place and filming in public is not illegal. Still, he clearly thinks he is solving serious crimes!

    13 Feb 2011 6:24 PM

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  • Holly wrote:

    I think this car is an absolute joke!! Typical of Medway Council trying to squueze every last penny out of Medway citizens to pay their ridculous bonuses! Its a violation of human rights!! Its also beyond hypocritical of Medway Council that their spy car can park wherever it likes but us citizens are not allowed to park hardly anywhere on the roads OUR taxes pay for!! Its a joke and a shambles and I dont know how its even legal to operate this thing driven about by morons like the jobsworth it the video. Surely if the council is allowed to spy on us there should be fully legally trained professionals operating the vehicle! And peopele like andy rochester and pete tong (seriously dont use the name of a good DJ in vain!!) must work for medway council if thats the sort of sh*t that they spurt out!! Something needs to be done about this, medways citizens should team up and start a petition to stop OUR tax money being wasted like this!!

    21 Dec 2010 12:20 PM

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  • gavin wrote:

    these cars are meant to be increasing safety they park in the most awkward places and show no respect for anyone including pedestrians and children they have carelessly pulled out from chatham high street to head along the brook towards gun wharf whilst the green man was showing narrowly missing two kids and their parents .Once they were complained to they just laughed these people only care about money and now it seems thats more important than an innocent childs

    26 Nov 2010 6:25 PM

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  • Bill khan wrote:

    What we really need is the attitude of carparking to change. Unless we do not follow what london boroughs are doing this will become very common. Had to tell one of these cars to sling their hook as they were going whever i was going.

    29 Sep 2010 1:16 PM

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  • Bruce wrote:

    This is how to deal with them ;-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHOazGC7alk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc8TTfVVW2w
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZfHCqXbqy8

    23 Sep 2010 12:15 AM

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  • Miles Davies wrote:

    If you get a PCN then appeal straight away. Take photos's of where you have been issued the PCN then check the following:

    Traffic Signs manual Chapter 3 for signs and chapter 5 for road markings. You will find that Medway don't believe that these regulations apply to them and issue 1000's of illegally tickets. If they reject your appeal then take it to the next stage....they will cancel then. Anyway questions mail me on mdlocksmiths@hotmail.co.uk

    19 Sep 2010 2:08 PM

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  • jamie waller wrote:

    Dont tell everybody the people from the parking office are going to be dishing out tickets under cover ?

    13 Sep 2010 8:26 PM

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  • ticket master apprentice wrote:

    this man is a good supervisor and has chosen to resign from his post and will now be out on foot patrol well done the public but in his place comes someone who will be ticket mad so keep your eyes peeled he or she will get you

    12 Sep 2010 10:13 PM

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  • Bruce wrote:

    There is something you can do. 'Enhancing the deterrent effect' is entirely in line with the statutory aim of "100% compliance without penalties" ;-)

    Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZfHCqXbqy8

    31 Aug 2010 1:56 AM

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  • jimmy wrote:

    Well done! True the guy is only doing his job but its about time we stopped this slow slide into 1984.

    This is Britain for gods sake,supposedly a free country...not Russia during the communist era stp watching every thing we do and let people live their lives.

    29 Aug 2010 7:44 AM

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  • bill khan wrote:

    FaustiesBlog wrote:

    Kent must have some of the most draconian driving restrictions - next to Southampton.

    The little Hitlers they employ demonstrate the contempt that the councils have for their constituents.

    Isn't it time we all bought ourselves "wearable" camcorders?

    They're pretty cheap these days, and can be embedded into caps, buttons, tie pins - anything.

    Look it up!

    21 Aug 2010 1:18 AM

    All councils or local authorities are following what the London boroughs do. However they do not seem to follow the same parking restrictions where you can park in bus lane at certain times and after a certain time parking restrictions are lifted. However unless we clogg the system up by appealing informally and then appealing formally then appealing to a tribunal no body is going to listen. The problem is for this to work everybody who gets a ticket should follow this. Also if you receive a ticket through the post from medway council you may want to explore it being valid as the wording is incorrect on it. This needs to be appealed.

    27 Aug 2010 10:52 PM

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  • Peter Cook wrote:

    Forgive them, they know not what they do (or do they?).

    Appeal every time and point out that 'it will be the most expensive fine they have ever claimed' Make sure it is.

    You may also emjoy the Medway Council Parking Blues: http://www.youtube.com/user/petercook2001#p/a/u/0/aSnvaM7q6Rw

    23 Aug 2010 11:03 PM

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  • Phib wrote:

    Peter Tong, You are an "Halfwit", you know nothing of the subject you rant on about, and have made a complete fool of yourself by putting your thoughts in our faces. If you had a brain, you would be dangerous ! Thank God you have not !!!!

    23 Aug 2010 1:23 AM

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  • Phil Bevens wrote:

    If you get a parking ticket from Medway Council, write a short letter of appeal immediately, and clog up their thieving system. It works, trust me !. It will clog up their system BIG TIME !!
    Appeal every time you receive a parking ticket (PCN), , that way you will show the same contempt for the thieving Tory Council, as they have for you.
    Do it Or are you whimps ? !!!

    23 Aug 2010 1:12 AM

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  • Phil Bevens wrote:

    This sad old N**i B**ted, needs to get a real job that benefits the community, and not one that divides it !. He is to old to care !. and gets to much money .
    By the look of him, he's on his last legs !!!
    R.I.P.

    23 Aug 2010 12:59 AM

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  • FaustiesBlog wrote:

    Kent must have some of the most draconian driving restrictions - next to Southampton.

    The little Hitlers they employ demonstrate the contempt that the councils have for their constituents.

    Isn't it time we all bought ourselves "wearable" camcorders?

    They're pretty cheap these days, and can be embedded into caps, buttons, tie pins - anything.

    Look it up!

    21 Aug 2010 1:18 AM

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  • Bruce wrote:

    For me the issue is that the declared statutory aim of parking enforcemnt is "100% compliance with no penalties". These cars frequently hide to maximise revenue, and thus do nothing to prevent the offences occuring so avoiding the dangers that such offences allegedly cause. They could park visibly and deter offenders but money is more important that public safety. How cares who gets hurt or killed as long as councils and contractors get their blood money, eh?

    20 Aug 2010 8:08 PM

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  • Ryan wrote:

    Mr Had Enough

    This mans job is certainly not at risk. These cars generate hundreds of thousands of pounds of revenue annually for the council. That revenue coming from hard pressed local people during a recession soon to be depression.

    If anything you should expect to see far more of these cars driving around as a result of the cuts.

    18 Aug 2010 5:53 PM

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  • PhilipBrennan.net wrote:

    I am all in favour of We the People getting our cameraphones out each and every time we see these cars spying on us in the HIgh Street with their Facial Recognition Technology and Parabolic Microphones (Yes, they do have that technology installed) and post them up on YouTube with headings like "We the People shall NOT be spied upon"...

    15 Aug 2010 11:44 PM

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  • Peter Tong wrote:

    Mr Khan needs to get a life, if asked not to he should not film or photograph anyone. Its an invasion of privacy. The attitutude of the officer concerned is poor but he is obviously feeling harrased, for no reason than doing a poorly paid job because so many of us are breaking the law 24 hours a day. The car recordes number plates its the only way of proceeding with the pcn process, so big brothers not watching you or your kids. Whats so sad is the fact that if the warden goes of sick for months and months with stress from this, we all end up paying the cost, and medway will just get an over paid temp in his place. Medway messenger get a life and remove the video before we all have to pay. Pete T www.bigbrotherwatch.co.uk

    14 Aug 2010 4:48 PM

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  • Boz wrote:

    Parking restrictions are now all about defrauding the public of huge amounts of money so that profligate Councils can spend more and more of our money to persecute people in many different ways.

    It is time to put a stop to this mass theft masquerading as 'Law'.

    All everyone has to do is simply refuse to pay ANY parking tickets - EVER.

    It will work a treat as the entire system will collapse.

    BUT the problem is, that people are just too spineless and wimp like to have the guts to do this.

    Don't forget - you get what you deserve. And the general population of Brits are such pathetic little wimps that just let public servants get away with everything this is the end result.

    Massive State Persecution of the individual.

    This is no longer a free country and anyone who deludes themselves it is is an idiot.

    14 Aug 2010 4:03 PM

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  • iain wrote:

    its pathetic to see a person in supposedly a responsible position open his mouth in the way he did the car itself should be taken off the road before some idiot like the one in the video is hurt i have witnessed the way the operators of this vehicle operate and its clearly driven and operated by brain dead idiots who due to the lack of intelligence failed to be given a job of real resposibility and to command any sort of respect sort yourselves out medway council because i can assure you before long these idiots you emply will soon need body armour and a police escort whilst doing there job
    i agree with wardens whatever but to sneak up on people as i have seen this car do is really asking for trouble and please watch the video as that is the sort of brain dead i wish i had been a policeman employer you have got by the look of the video it might be a good idea for the council employeee to renew his dentures to save any other embarrasing rubbish come out of his mouth

    14 Aug 2010 3:01 PM

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  • Bill khan wrote:

    To follow this story you need to read the medway messenger for friday. For a explanation.

    14 Aug 2010 1:46 PM

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  • Mr Had Enough wrote:

    Has the world gone mad? this poor man only trying to do his job, a job thats poss at risk under gov cuts and he has to put up with abuse from a Mr Khan who thinks he some kind of parking warrior. I've got a feeling that Mr Khan my be a disgruntled ex-warden type person. Anyway leave the wardens alone they do a great job, However, i may think differant once i've got my DL and a car back now that the six year ban is nearly up.

    14 Aug 2010 11:10 AM

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  • jo wrote:

    Upon seeing this car maybe all the people of the Medway Towns should get out their camera phones and video the car as it sits or passes by. Then maybe those people at the Council who just sit in their offices thinking up these 'ideas' of how to allienate the Medway people will be able to see just how their employees go about making so much money for them in such an aggressive and enjoyable manor.
    We have been in Gillingham High Street of an evening along with many others trying to have a meal or a drink and along comes the spy car the catch all of those parked to the side of the High Street (not blocking access) This is putting people off coming into the High Street and in turn this will lead to the closure of establishments, which in turn means more premises will be empty and the Council will no longer have the rates being paid on yet more empty premises. Surely premises are better occupied than empty. Maybe they should look at Sittingbourne High Street or Herne Bay High Street where you can drive down the middle and have 30mins free parking to the sides. this might then encourage more people to use local shops than go to Hempstead Valley for free parking.
    This car spends 30 mins just driving round and round Gillingham High Street and Jeffery Street catching people in the fast food takeways. But if we film them when they stop for a takeway the Council will have to start to take some notice. EVERYONE GET YOUR VIDEOS OUT!

    14 Aug 2010 11:06 AM

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  • @Belfast wrote:

    I was over in the towns boutyear ago and was going up Maidstone road and the camera swiffled round and was filming the 3 of us in our car all the way up to the cross roads by the church,was great as was pulling faces at it and what not. I never seen it before then and me ma told me bout it. Surely that isn't meant to be there job.

    13 Aug 2010 10:12 PM

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  • david lang wrote:

    I was working in High Street Rochester around a year ago and had parked my van on yellow lines.

    Knowing how difficult the parking situation is I had previously purchased a dispensation from the council allowing me to do so. This was clearly displayed in the front of the van.

    I got a ticket in the post along with photos taken by the camera car - of the rear of the vehicle.

    I asked the council 2 questions. Why didn't the driver get out & check the front? Apparently when the car has a single occupant they are told not to get out for 'health & safety' reasons!

    I also asked why they didn't check the ticket against the dispensations - and apparently they don't 'have the manpower or the technology' to do so.

    13 Aug 2010 6:52 PM

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  • James Davies wrote:

    Medway Council seems to be on some sort of authoritarian rampage recently. Threatening people who put for sale signs in their cars, the Smoking Enforcement Officer reported in this paper last week condoning the confiscation of cigarettes from smokers by children and now this. They are cutting funding for library books and after school clubs for our children yet retaining the "services" of people like the warden in the film and the Tobacco Officer.

    Medway Council is a Tory Council and Cameron promised us less state interference and bullying, we are getting precisely the opposite from Medway Council and it is being done at the expense of things like activities for our children. Their authoritarianism seems worse than that of the outgoing Labour regime. I hope people will remember that at the next elections.

    Here is an excellent video showing how to deal with these sort of officious people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXMoBTB5WEQ

    13 Aug 2010 3:23 PM

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  • PhilipBrennan.net wrote:

    I wrote my own Editorial on this over at my site:

    http://www.philipbrennan.net/2010/08/13/medway-towns-we-the-people-shall-not-be-spied-upon/

    13 Aug 2010 12:33 PM

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  • Bill khan wrote:

    All of a sudden the head of parking at medway has decided to be out of the office until 31st of august. I wander why ?

    13 Aug 2010 11:46 AM

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  • PhilipBrennan.net wrote:

    About time people stood up to these people and let the council know that We the People WILL NOT BE SPIED UPON.

    People, time to confront our councillors who are operating against the law and against our Constitution, that being the Magna Carta and the 1688-1689 Bill of Rights, and DEMAND that they respect our privacy or face mass court actions against them at the European Court of Human Rights and at the Supreme Court of England and Wales.

    It is time we stood up and said NO to this Fascist Police State.

    13 Aug 2010 9:27 AM

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  • Emma wrote:

    This car has already tried and failed to get my father in Wainscott for supposedly parking in a bus stop (which coincidently the cctv car was doing on the other side of the road when it snapped my father supposedly breaking parking rules) He challenged the fine and won because, unlike Medway Council and their cctv car, he knows the law as he is a professional driver.

    These cctv cars are also supposed to prominently display signs showing that they are operating in the area which they failed to do, making their fine invalid, so next time you see them lurking have a look around and see if their cctv operative sign is displayed. They have tried to claim in the past that speed camera signs also show that the cctv car is operating in the area, which is not the case and they are masquerading under this false pretence.

    The cctv car operative also thinks it is fine to park on the pavement, which it is not as it is breaking the law.

    Medway council should really make sure that their cctv drivers are familiar with the law before they start hooting and hollering about who is and isn't breaking the law.

    13 Aug 2010 12:10 AM

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  • Matt Chatham wrote:

    Well done Bill. It makes a change for one of them to actually get out of there car. I am very anti towards this car as the traffic moved better before we had not one but two money making scam cars. Look at medway with all the road works and new town plans it is just a mess and no money to do it with its all down to Medway Council.

    12 Aug 2010 11:01 PM

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  • Andy Rochester wrote:

    Bill Khan why don't you stop and do something constructive with your time rather than being a provocateur and stirring up nonsense. We need to cut costs to the tax payer not bung-up numerous council hours sorting out you personal vendetta like you are the "peoples champion" more like "I could not get in Big Brother so this is the next best thing to being a housemate GIVE ME FAME!" complex. The Council has a large legal team not to mention the partnership with other agencies it can use to dance around your pathetic grudge - get over it and stop being a busy-body

    12 Aug 2010 7:49 PM

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  • BILL KHAN wrote:

    If you have a problem with parking in medway drop me a line donotcoverme@yahoo.co.uk
    I am trying to collect as much info as i can on this subject.

    12 Aug 2010 5:39 PM

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  • Law Abider wrote:

    The "You can't tell me what to do" attitude is endemic in our society. I applaude all attempts by Medway Council to make us do what's right. The CCTV operator is doing a dangerous job. Medway locals are apt to clobber things they don't like. He's right to be concerned about the picture-takers.

    12 Aug 2010 3:10 PM

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  • Rev Ross wrote:

    This is not the first time I have seen staff act in this manner.

    Does the car or the excessive enforcement staff really make a difference to the community? My answer is NO!

    Applying for City status, get staff that fairly reflect what we want to achieve.

    12 Aug 2010 2:13 PM

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  • Bill khan wrote:

    Why is it medway council will not listen to anybody ? Look at the comments here.

    12 Aug 2010 12:09 PM

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  • Elizabeth Martin wrote:

    I have to drop my daughter off at school each day. Since I am not allowed to pull in to the bus lay-by for a few seconds I have to stop in the road, holding up traffic behind me. I would pull over on to the side of the road but these have yellow lines and a camera car parked on them (he can park there, I can't) once or twice my daughter has had near misses crossing the road into her school. Cars who are trying to pick up their children in the evening are driving up and down the road unable to stop because of these camera cars, causing more traffic movements. What is more important the safety of our children or money going in to the council coffers. WHY ARE THESE CAMERA CARS ALLOWED TO BREAK THE LAW BY PARKING ILLEGALLY BUT PUNISH US IF WE DO.

    12 Aug 2010 11:31 AM

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  • Mr.B. wrote:

    There is a balance to be struck between keeping the towns moving and misuse of parking restrictions by Medway Council's own staff, which I do see quite regularly. However, a lot of the problems with traffic flow in the area is the insistence on changing road layouts and allowing so many roadworks to take place at the same time and
    during peak periods. The Council has a planning department, they should perhaps "plan" more effectively? As for the CCTV car, it's an expensive talking point and nothing more useful than that.

    12 Aug 2010 10:19 AM

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  • traffic warden wrote:

    Calm down everybody in favour of the warden.

    12 Aug 2010 9:33 AM

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  • Malcolm Triggs wrote:

    English Cad - wrong, we'd be living in a place where cars were parked all over the place, causing chaos and disruption, messing up the streetscape and stopping people going about their business. Get a job Bill, and let this bloke get on with his.

    12 Aug 2010 8:45 AM

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  • Paul Ryan wrote:

    Ok,Its obvious the car approached is parked where there are sighns sugesting no parking, the warden then gets out of his car in the same no parking area to take a look so now hes illeagally park medway council your a joke double standards rule for you and not for the rest

    12 Aug 2010 7:22 AM

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  • ronald salmon wrote:

    having watched the video i did notice thet the cctv operator had no valid sia licence shown on his person. all cctv staff at medway council have a valid cctv licence it is an offence not to display this licence.
    i canot see how they can opperate this ctv camera without a licence as it is being used in a public place and the image could and possiably catches members of the public.. shorley without this licence all footage is there for ilegal as you are commiting an offence using it without this licence, so all tickets are void shorley


    If the CCTV system covers a public space, the organisation operating the CCTV system should be aware of the possible licensing requirements imposed by the Security Industry Authority.

    A public space surveillance (CCTV) licence is required when operatives are supplied under a contract for services.
    they are contracted to work in this car and prosses data Under the provisions of the Private Security Industry Act 2001, it is a criminal offence for staff to be contracted as public space surveillance CCTV operators in England, Wales and Scotland without an SIA licence.

    12 Aug 2010 3:40 AM

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  • Andy Rochester wrote:



    Hasn't this khan got a life or a job filming people doing their work and he has the nerve to say "call the police" like they have nothing better to do than investigate this idiot with a camera phone. I pay my taxes so this no mark can walk the streets causing a nuisance. This is akin to a "happy slap" incident as it clearly has caused the warden a certain amount of distress. Just because we have a gripe with the administration of the local authority we shouldn't take it out on the poor foot soldiers I bet he's not on £100,000 a year! And you don't need yellow lines as there are clear signs stating it is a "paved zone" which is the same thing like Rochester High Street (because when they record period Dickens films yellow lines weren't around then). Khan how would you like it if the 20+ CCTV cameras around the Brook and High Street filmed you I bet you'd be straight on the phone to "no-win-no-fee" about your rights.

    11 Aug 2010 7:52 PM

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  • rusty wrote:

    Another warden who was causing chaos at a junction in Rochester was parked on double yellows and a "keep clear" zone and refused to move. He then told us to "F" off. After a lengthy complaint the complaint was pushed under the carpet with everybody at the council being really busy and the parking officer off sick! After 12 months he was offered words of advice and some extra training........MEDWAY COUNCIL THIS CAR IS AN EMBARRESMENT GET RID OF IT!!!! Get them out along Rochester High Sreet. Not the side streets where they can avoid confrontation and easily pick on abandoned unattended cars! SORT IT OUT!!!

    11 Aug 2010 7:51 PM

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  • B wrote:

    I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that no one person is "above the law".

    11 Aug 2010 7:41 PM

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  • Tristan Osborne wrote:

    There is anecdotal evidence I have heard that the car is targeting primary school parents on the school-drop off run because sometimes parents are in a rush.

    If true - this tells you everything about our current administration.

    Next year you can kick out those who introduced this vehicle.



    11 Aug 2010 6:08 PM

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  • EnglishCad wrote:

    Where would we be without the jobsworth... A lot better off and living in a much more pleasant place!

    11 Aug 2010 5:09 PM

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  • Bill khan wrote:

    What everybody needs to do is write to the following address and complain :

    Chief executives office
    Medway council
    Freepost
    Gun wharf
    Dock road
    Chatham
    Kent
    Me4 4tr

    This is a freepost address and so no stamp is needed. Also complain to the local government ombudsman about this. As more people complain more notice will be taken.

    11 Aug 2010 4:58 PM

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  • ron sands wrote:

    Tory chief Cllr Filmer happily admitted that the CCTV car parked in prohibited places about 70 per cent of the time and was above the law. He also indicated that the car "never causes an obstruction to other vehicles. It is done to ease the congestion of our towns and to provide a safer working environment. It has had a positive impact" So a council car and its drivers are above the law ..................

    11 Aug 2010 4:56 PM

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  • Dave Sweeney wrote:

    The road I live in has 54 houses - I would estimate that 90% of the houses have at least 1 if not 2 cars. There are at least 6 disabled bays plus we have to share our limited space with the residents of a neighbouring street that has no parking at all (Main road)is it any wonder that people sometimes have no option other than to park on yellow lines - sending a car round at 7.00am on a Sunday morning to catch people is not on - oh and by the way, we have to pay a Residents fee of £25 per car per year for the privilige of not being able to park.

    11 Aug 2010 4:54 PM

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  • JSM wrote:

    The way in which he opened his door, was to hopefully hit the camera or the person operating it, he should be dismissed under gross misconduct.

    His attitude means he should not be a PUBLIC servant, and like the Police, all of them can be filmed or photographed at anytime on a public walkway or road.
    These camera cars are a disgrace, and are not being used properly, I see them in London where they are though, they need training from these coucils in Camden and Westminster.

    11 Aug 2010 4:52 PM

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  • Jas wrote:

    I've seen this car parked in Deanwood Drive, Parkwood outside the school and right next to a sign that says 'If you care about our children do not park here'.

    There is a facebook group full of pictures of this car parking in dangerous places.

    11 Aug 2010 4:44 PM

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  • BILL KHAN wrote:

    The problem is you need to know how the parking rules work. The advantage medway parking have is they know how they can twist the truth to suit them. Did anybody know that the notice to owner medway council were issuing up until march 2008 were unenforceable ? Also the pcns(tickets) were wrongly worded. They wont say anything about that ?

    11 Aug 2010 4:25 PM

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  • Mike Adams wrote:

    I have never had a speeding fine, never had a parking ticket but I still say councils and their empolyees need to wind their necks in on this one.

    We should all be worried that "the authority" now drive round with cameras recording us.

    It is wrong and should be stopped before this Big Brother culture gets worse.

    11 Aug 2010 4:25 PM

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  • ian wrote:

    The common theme in the comments to date is about the activities of the camera car driver parking in illegal places. What are Medway council doing about that? There are so many of these comments that there must at least be a grain of truth and as such the council should discipline the drivers. There was an article in the national news last week about exactly this type of story and from memory although I stand to be corrected the driver was sacked.

    11 Aug 2010 4:22 PM

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  • Dave Sweeney wrote:

    Ken & Victoria - if Medway were only populated by such paragons of virtue such as yourselves, it truely would be a much better place !

    11 Aug 2010 4:17 PM

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  • victoria wrote:

    Perhaps the people that protest so vehemently about the camera cars are the guilty ones parking illegally??? Like Ken, I have never had a parking ticket, speeding ticket etc as I abide by the road laws!!!

    11 Aug 2010 3:33 PM

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  • Danny (Rochester) wrote:

    Perhaps the illustrious busy-bodies at Medway Council could solve this conumdrum quite easily...and in a cost effective way too, i.e.

    Issue all Council 'Spy Car' drivers/operators with Halloween type masks or similar, this hiding the identity of the those employees and save them the bother of having to (inadequately) shield their ugly face and appearance to innocent photographers. Also, this would go a long way towards doing the general public a favour by reducing exposure to the faceless and untrained twits that operate these revenue generating vehicles.

    I think that Medway Council have seriously mixed up the definition of "camera" and "in camera" (latin).

    Alas...and I fear...our elected representitives on the Council will make up yet another bullsh*t excuse.

    City of Medway...forget it!


    11 Aug 2010 3:18 PM

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  • jj wrote:

    im sorry but i dont see no yellow lines and these ppl are a pains filming cars were theres not yellow lines and parking up on yellow lines them self an eating there lunch around rochester which i have seen many times

    11 Aug 2010 3:17 PM

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  • Ken wrote:

    in reply to Sweeney I have been a professional driver for 38 years. Never had a parking ticket
    never been clamped no points on licence Why??? because my upbringing taught me to NEVER take the P.

    11 Aug 2010 2:53 PM

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  • victoria wrote:

    I think the camera cars are a great idea. Yes, I am a car driver but one who never parks on double yellows. I say get more. They have to park on double yellows to photograph the people illegally parked on double yellows. If it were up to me I would actually use unmarked cars so there is no warning. If you park illegally you get a ticket - simple. I get fed up driving around Medway with people parked illegally and getting away with it. Sure they need to play fair but they are doing a much needed job, especially around schools where parents are so irresponsible with their parking.

    11 Aug 2010 2:46 PM

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  • rick wrote:

    Traffic warden aint called ken by any chance? I,m sure it,s good manners to refer to someone as Mr ... rather than just their surname

    11 Aug 2010 2:41 PM

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  • Amanda M wrote:

    Talking to someone in such a manner while wearing the clothes of his employment ..... hmm .... does he still have a job?
    Ken, I'm sure I speak for a lot of people when I say I have no objection at all to people being pulled up for parking unsafely/illegally etc, what I do have a problem with is the fact I have seen this car SO many times, parked unsafely/illegally itself! As someone has already said on this thread, when I have seen them the amount of times I've seen them eating or drinking while parked illegally is enormous. Have a drive up Maidstone Road, Rochester most mornings and look in the car yourself .......

    11 Aug 2010 2:36 PM

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  • Steve wrote:

    @Ken, I serious doubt the traffic warden would have any interest in unblocking your driveway unless there happened to be a yellow line running across it.

    The fact of the matter is he is in public. Nobody has any right to expect privacy in public. The irony is he not not only says Mr Khan is not allowed to film him when he spends his entire day driving a car designed to film/capture others.

    11 Aug 2010 2:32 PM

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  • Dave Sweeney wrote:

    Ken - not a driver then ?

    11 Aug 2010 2:31 PM

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  • Ken wrote:

    The warden is doing what he is paid to do THAT IS HIS JOB Khan is clearly a trouble maker. All you sad selfish drivers who think you can park were you like AS LONG AS NO ONE OBSTRUCTS YOUR DRIVEWAY are the very reason that we need traffic wardens. Point of law: Khan actions could in law be looked upon as a breach of the peace.

    11 Aug 2010 2:19 PM

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  • rick wrote:

    ok, i'm not from medway but can someone clear this up for me? He drives around all day filming other people, invading their privacy but when Mr khan puts the shoe on the other foot he gets the hump?

    11 Aug 2010 1:58 PM

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  • Anon wrote:

    "I'm not taking photographs of you so don't of me" & "You dont have my permission to take my photograph"

    Since when did we give YOU permission to photograph or video us as your driving around the streets and parking on double yellow lines when your meant to be stopping the exact thing your doing yourself? Hypocritical much ?

    11 Aug 2010 1:48 PM

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  • Brian Baker wrote:

    Once again to much power to ones head maybe this guy should be given a more menial job like painting yellow lines outside his own house

    11 Aug 2010 1:45 PM

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  • ron sands wrote:

    we the English Democrat have been exposing this law breaking car for over a year,check out our local webpage for the details.
    I am standing in the River Ward By election and this law breaking conservative cash cow is one of the main parts of my campaign so vote Ron Sands

    11 Aug 2010 1:09 PM

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  • ron sands wrote:

    We the English Democrats have bVote Engeen exposing the law breaking car for over a year now check out the blogs and reports on our web site. Ron Sands is standing in the river ward y election on 12th aug and one of main parts of his campain is this law breaking car.

    11 Aug 2010 1:03 PM

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  • Tristan Osborne wrote:


    This car is a Medway Conservative Tax in everything but name.

    We should review this car immediately and really ascertain whether its necessary. It is casually breaking the law and has done so for months. The Tories have even doubled the revenue they expect to make out of voters.

    Many residents are fed up with the pass-the-buck mentality from Tory Councillors.



    11 Aug 2010 12:56 PM

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  • Dave Sweeney wrote:

    This has nothing to do with road safety at all, it is just another money making scheme - I have seen these cars out and about at 7.00am on a Sunday morning. Even if the PCN is paid within 14 days it is still a massive £35 - Medway Council should be ashamed of themselves.

    11 Aug 2010 12:17 PM

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  • garry harrison wrote:

    hi all i am taking all your comments on and i will see what me and the libdems can do about it if you wish to get hold of me ,
    my web sit is www.garryharrison.org.uk

    11 Aug 2010 12:08 PM

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  • BILL KHAN wrote:

    Problem is this is a money making machine. Well you do know there are 2 camera cars in medway ? The revenue earned does not even cover the admin on these. Do a foi on this and see.

    11 Aug 2010 11:12 AM

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  • John Clark wrote:

    This guy needs to learn what the law is - a lack of training by his employers is the real problem here. It's a popular misconception that people can't take your photograph or film you in a public place without your permission.

    11 Aug 2010 10:19 AM

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  • BILL KHAN wrote:

    Since rubena hafizi joined medway council it seems that everything is now chargeable. Remember we could park along side streets ? This is the lady who has changed all of this. Revenue has gone up. Parking spaces have gone down also everywhere you see it this pesky car is about with its wardens/civil enforcement officers. How long till we actually get one of the calling to check how many times the toilet is flushed ?

    11 Aug 2010 9:55 AM

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  • Mike Adams wrote:

    This car is becoming a symbol for the public of what has gone wrong with local authorities.

    Scrap it now before the public losses it patience futher.

    11 Aug 2010 9:52 AM

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  • naomi wrote:

    i got a parking ticket for £70 through the post when i parked on double yellow lines for 30 minutes in chatham. sat next to me had been a camera car. as a blue badge holder driving a motorbility car i am entitled to park on yellow lines. the man driving the camera car clearly had not even got out of his car to see if i might have blue badges. naturally i am contesting this ticket! i have seen these camera cars frequently in chatham, usually parked somewhere illegal. do they not get out of their cars to check if someone might have blue badges up? clearly not. a blatant case of sheer laziness. get these 'lazy big brothers' off the road and use the money in sensible ways!

    11 Aug 2010 9:50 AM

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  • Andrew wrote:

    I have seen this vehicle parking in a position where it caused an obstruction to road users and was more of a danger than illegally parked vehicles, I have seen its operators sitting outside schools drinking coffee and eating sandwiches whilst allegedly working. I have seen the staff shopping, I have seen them contravening the same regulations they take pictures of others for when there was no need to park in a position which contravenes the regulation. Its a poor service with poorly trained or maverick staff. The operatives are reluctant to speak to people and just sit and photograph. They do not use discretion, they do not move people on, its another excuse to earn revenue. If truth be know it probably doesn't pay for itself effectively.

    11 Aug 2010 9:23 AM

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